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RE: The real religion?
August 16, 2016 at 5:41 pm
(August 16, 2016 at 5:36 pm)Jesster Wrote: (August 16, 2016 at 5:34 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Help me out gang. According to Steve's logic and assertions regarding belief in the NT gospels, shouldn't he also believe in the gnostic and non-canonical gospels?
I've written complete bullshit down before in the past. It's a historical document now and I am the eyewitness. He should believe me.
We're not giving you 10% of our money therefore you have no accountability.
(see what I did there)
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: The real religion?
August 16, 2016 at 5:45 pm
(August 16, 2016 at 5:41 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (August 16, 2016 at 5:36 pm)Jesster Wrote: I've written complete bullshit down before in the past. It's a historical document now and I am the eyewitness. He should believe me.
We're not giving you 10% of our money therefore you have no accountability.
(see what I did there)
Then I'm not letting you play with my cool toys. You can go sit in the oven with the losers.
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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RE: The real religion?
August 16, 2016 at 5:51 pm
(August 16, 2016 at 5:41 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (August 16, 2016 at 5:36 pm)Jesster Wrote: I've written complete bullshit down before in the past. It's a historical document now and I am the eyewitness. He should believe me.
We're not giving you 10% of our money therefore you have no accountability.
(see what I did there)
You know what happened to the couple in the Bible who withheld some of the proceeds of the sale of their home from the church, don't you?
Think, man! Do you really want Katrina Pierson to fix you with that dead-eyed stare of hers, spout some nonsensical bullshit at you about what her god really meant, and then call upon the power of Trump to cause you to drop dead on the spot? Holy Ivanka! I tremble for you.
And by the way, it's not 10% anymore. It's whatever the pimps at Trump U. can wring out of you.
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RE: The real religion?
August 16, 2016 at 6:24 pm
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(August 16, 2016 at 5:34 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Help me out gang. According to Steve's logic and assertions regarding belief in the NT gospels, shouldn't he also believe in the gnostic and non-canonical gospels?
Yes. Especially the one where Jesus killed a child.
Not that it's really that shocking given he is the same entity with a kill count of over 10 mil.
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The real religion?
August 16, 2016 at 6:33 pm
(August 16, 2016 at 5:34 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Help me out gang. According to Steve's logic and assertions regarding belief in the NT gospels, shouldn't he also believe in the gnostic and non-canonical gospels?
Oh, THIS should be interesting...lol.
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RE: The real religion?
August 16, 2016 at 6:38 pm
Looks like Steve's logged out. Adam must have dinner on the table.
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RE: The real religion?
August 16, 2016 at 6:54 pm
I dub this to be this thread's official theme song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u8teXR8VE4
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RE: The real religion?
August 16, 2016 at 7:25 pm
(August 16, 2016 at 3:33 pm)SteveII Wrote: especially since my belief in God is properly basic!! 
Just because you (and Plantinga) believe your belief in "God" is properly basic, does make it so. The vast majority of philosophers do not agree with you (or Plantinga).
This, like all your other beliefs, require supporting evidence.
Maybe you should open a new thread and make your case.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: The real religion?
August 16, 2016 at 8:58 pm
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(August 16, 2016 at 3:33 pm)SteveII Wrote: Still waiting for some evidence of a conspiracy/fraud/less than honest account...
In the meantime, I am going to accept the accounts/facts/period analysis as it was originally written. I have no reason to believe this group of people lied or were confused--especially since my belief in God is properly basic!! Look, if you want to be Christian, and believe in the Bible, that's one thing. But no reason?!
Here's a reason-- people can't walk on water due to differences in density and the basic rules of physics. . . but the Bible says someone did. That's a reason to doubt it. Oh yeah, and that whole D&D coming back to life stuff-- you have really to be willing to give up on all critical thought not to at least ask if that happened. Cuz, you know. . . it never, ever does, ya know?
Oh yeah, and the fact that thousands upon thousands were supposed to be flocking to Jesus in amazement, begging him to heal them, etc. . . and that the Romans, perhaps the most obsessive record-keepers of the ancient world, don't bother even to mention him? Yeah, dude. . . you gotta use logic and draw some basic inferences here, buddy.
I don't know about your beliefs, but I can say anyone who hears all of that and doesn't thing here's a "reason" to question it is a properly basic human being. 
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RE: The real religion?
August 16, 2016 at 9:02 pm
(August 16, 2016 at 7:25 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Maybe you should open a new thread and make your case. Come on, now, be fair. You know perfectly well that shifting the BOP IS his case. He's been making it for about 50 pages now
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