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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 19, 2016 at 2:38 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2016 at 2:43 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Meh, I'm not too worried about whether or not you think I'm a poor debater Paul. We haven't been having a debate, after all. Is my ability to debate, btw, somehow relevant to your opinion (however hard you try to distance yourself from it) that white privilege doesn't exist? Am I, or anything I've offered...the -reason- you don't think it exists? Or is it easier to babble about me than it is to own and explain your own opinions?
Will winning a debate...that we're not having, against an opponent that you feel is sub-par..... make white privilege disappear in a puff of poor logic?
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 19, 2016 at 2:39 pm
(July 19, 2016 at 2:15 pm)Rhythm Wrote: White people -are- privileged, here in the states..full stop. You can check that against -any- metric you like.
Here in the UK too.
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 19, 2016 at 2:41 pm
(July 19, 2016 at 2:34 pm)paulpablo Wrote: (July 19, 2016 at 2:26 pm)Rhythm Wrote: There is no "nuance" to counter that simple, quantifiable, and demonstrable fact. Whatever nuance remains exists within the framework -of- that simple, quantifiable, and demonstrable fact.
I was watching a video about phrases and techniques people who are really bad at forming logical arguments and debating use, adding "full stop" at the end of the point your making is another box ticked in the long list of boxes ticked mentioned in that video
"I saw some video where it was said that using a certain phrase is often fallacious therefore you're wrong even though what you're saying is still a quantifiable demonstrable fact and I'm overgeneralising like a sillyface just cuz I saw a video."
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 19, 2016 at 2:42 pm
Out of curiosity, when was the last time in 32 pages that a black person responded to this thread?
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 19, 2016 at 2:46 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2016 at 2:46 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
When was the last time a black person intentionally wandered into what sounded suspiciously like a fucking klan rally? 
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 19, 2016 at 2:46 pm
*sigh*
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 19, 2016 at 2:47 pm
(July 19, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: (July 19, 2016 at 1:43 pm)RobertE Wrote: You lost all credibility by going on a rant I'm afraid, whether it is justified or not. If Paul doesn't want to conform to YOUR or anybody else's standards, then that is his right and he has every damn right to express his opinion instead of being shouted down. I mean, what the hell, you want to debate yet you become like Ken Ham and all the others who will not listen to other peoples arguments.
Rant? Shouted down? What the fuck? Someone can't express their own opinions back to someone else without being told they're ranting or "shouting down" now?
My opinion is you're full of shit.
On the contrary. Lostys arguments have been ok in this thread. However, when they go off on one simply because they have their own personal agenda, it needs to be brought up. Furthermore, she disliked the idea of an individual having his own opinion because it contradicted her own. If she cannot open her mind to other possibilities, then it isn't his problem and not mine either. This is typical of liberalism at its finest, the very same people who love to criticise Christianism and then in the same breath, stop people from criticising Islam when they are as both as bad as the other. If she cannot debate without opening up other avenues just as Paul did, then that means she can't be great at debating. I am an amateur by the way, but I know when people are either subjective, objective and full of shit. 
My opinion is that you are full of yourself....
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 19, 2016 at 2:47 pm
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On the subject of white privilege, no one is arguing opinion. There's no need.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 19, 2016 at 2:48 pm
(July 19, 2016 at 2:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: When was the last time a black person intentionally wandered into what sounded suspiciously like a fucking klan rally?
Don't know, ask Marcus Garvey who did so in 1922....
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 19, 2016 at 2:54 pm
(July 19, 2016 at 2:47 pm)RobertE Wrote: (July 19, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Rant? Shouted down? What the fuck? Someone can't express their own opinions back to someone else without being told they're ranting or "shouting down" now?
My opinion is you're full of shit.
On the contrary. Lostys arguments have been ok in this thread. However, when they go off on one simply because they have their own personal agenda, it needs to be brought up. Furthermore, she disliked the idea of an individual having his own opinion because it contradicted her own. If she cannot open her mind to other possibilities, then it isn't his problem and not mine either. This is typical of liberalism at its finest, the very same people who love to criticise Christianism and then in the same breath, stop people from criticising Islam when they are as both as bad as the other. If she cannot debate without opening up other avenues just as Paul did, then that means she can't be great at debating. I am an amateur by the way, but I know when people are either subjective, objective and full of shit.
My opinion is that you are full of yourself....
What is my personal agenda?
Please quote when I told Paul to shut up or otherwise insinuated that he shouldn't express his opinions.
This isn't a debate. It's a discussion. Your points are made up and they don't even matter. Am I being punk'd on whose line is it anyways?
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