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Poll of over 3000 U.S. troops: Gary Johnson preffered over Clinton, Trump
July 22, 2016 at 3:13 am
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Gary is anti-war, so it's great that he got 38.7% (with little to no press coverage bear in mind). Donald received 30.9% in the poll, and Hilary came in a distant last place, getting just 14.1%. So the troops really don't like Hilary in other words. She got less than half the percentage that Gary and Donald got. (Perhaps they think she is the most pro-war of the three?) Shame Jill Stein wasn't included. I'll let Kyle of Secular Talk elaborate on the poll:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4iBP5nS1S4
Link to The Hill article mentioned in the video.
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RE: Poll of over 3000 U.S. troops: Gary Johnson preffered over Clinton, Trump
July 22, 2016 at 4:28 am
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As a former member of the military, I am positive that poll is not representative. It was conducted by an online personality. I can pretty much guarantee you that 38.7% of service members don't even know who Gary Johnson is, much less would vote for a libertarian.
Quote:Although the survey was not a scientific poll with a margin of error, it provides a snapshot of the preferences of about 3,500 active duty, reservists, retired and former members of the military and their family members, 95.7 percent of which were registered voters.
Intimately knowing the two largest branches of the military (Army and Navy/Marine Corps), I know they recruit the type of people who would love Donald Trump. I have lived on or worked on 7 Navy/Marine Corps Bases and one Army base in the last 5 years. Solid Red. Big trucks, NRA members, and military spending. No way this is an accurate poll.
I wish it were true, but I cannot get there with the military I know.
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RE: Poll of over 3000 U.S. troops: Gary Johnson preffered over Clinton, Trump
July 22, 2016 at 4:31 am
I'm surprised that Trump only got 30.9%.
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RE: Poll of over 3000 U.S. troops: Gary Johnson preffered over Clinton, Trump
July 22, 2016 at 5:48 am
Thanks for the insights. I already suspected the military was more Republican leaning. If Gary got that much percentage in the presidential election it would be great.
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RE: Poll of over 3000 U.S. troops: Gary Johnson preffered over Clinton, Trump
July 22, 2016 at 6:02 am
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(July 22, 2016 at 4:31 am)Bella Morte Wrote: I'm surprised that Trump only got 30.9%.
I heard somewhere that Texas sends more people to the military than any other state. Seeing as Texans voted for Cruz over Trump in the primaries it would suggest they are very conservative. I honestly expected Clinton to do better. But the poll apparently wasn't scientific, as Kyle stated. Gary Johnson is as high as 13% in some national polls though, and his numbers so no sign of decreasing. So I expect him to get millions more votes than last time.
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RE: Poll of over 3000 U.S. troops: Gary Johnson preffered over Clinton, Trump
July 22, 2016 at 6:30 am
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Wouldn't have surprised me when I was in. Libertarianism was making a big push for our demographic, at the time. Mostly as cover for neocon platforms. OTOH, plenty of poor blacks and non-stereotypical whites (wiccans, gays, one buddhist...go figure)...so that probably evened it out with dem voters. If it fell Lib/Rep/Dem..in that order...I'd have shrugged and said "figures".
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RE: Poll of over 3000 U.S. troops: Gary Johnson preffered over Clinton, Trump
July 22, 2016 at 8:27 am
I guess it depends which part of the United States you're from. If you live in Hawaii, the Republicans only have one seat in the upper house I believe, so it's heavily Democrat. Conversely, I've heard Wyoming described as the most Republican state. If the military does prefer Libertarian idea, and intimacy less wars, than that's great for all of us.
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RE: Poll of over 3000 U.S. troops: Gary Johnson preffered over Clinton, Trump
July 22, 2016 at 11:22 am
Not a scientific poll, so it doesn't mean anything. Libertarians are vastly over represented online, so when they do well it online polls, it's pretty much meaningless to real life. Which is pretty fitting, because many of their ideas don't work well in real life either.
That being said, if I recall correctly Ron Paul did extremely well with military members maybe even winning majority support despite losing badly with everyone else. I think it more has to do with the age group then anything else. Young Republicans don't care about social issues and are more likely to be libertarians or libertarian leaning.
Also despite the fact I disagree with him on much, I'm voting for Gary Johnson because "Feel the Johnson" is an awesome campaign slogan, because he's anti-war, a rock climber and owns a marijuana business.
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