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July 27, 2016 at 3:58 am
Does it really matter who hacked the DNC? The point is, they are only sorry they got caught The a Russians are just a way of deflecting from the real issue; which is that the DNC is heavily biased and Debbie got promoted by Hilary.
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July 27, 2016 at 4:38 am
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Well, yes, it does matter. If one is being manipulated, it's best to know who's doing it.
I should think such a point would be obvious.
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July 27, 2016 at 5:17 am
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July 27, 2016 at 6:14 am
That's why she needs to pull an FDR and swing way left after the primaries.
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July 27, 2016 at 7:07 am
(July 27, 2016 at 6:14 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: That's why she needs to pull an FDR and swing way left after the primaries.
From an outside perspective this should be easy for her. Isn't she 70 already? At least she's pushing 70. In the best of scenarios, getting two terms, she will be approaching 80 at that time. So, nothing to lose, but everything to win, I would say.
That is, if there's a kernel of idealism left in that corporate shill, and not only the desire to make the beds for her friends.
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RE: WikiLeaks publishes searchable database of almost 20,000 emails from DNC.
July 27, 2016 at 8:15 am
(July 27, 2016 at 4:38 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Well, yes, it does matter. If one is being manipulated, it's best to know who's doing it.
I should think such a point would be obvious.
My point was more the media perhaps seems to be focusing more on who hacked who rather than talking about what hacks reveal. Right? Time Warner Cable gives millions to the Clintons so it's in CNNs interest not to make the Clintons look bad. Seems the Russians are getting blamed for everything these days.
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July 27, 2016 at 8:18 am
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(July 27, 2016 at 6:14 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: That's why she needs to pull an FDR and swing way left after the primaries.
Trouble is, she's trying to appeal to these phantom crentrists. The Clinton name is so toxic that pretty much only Repurchase who will vote for her are Washington insiders. She thinks Republican elites are representative of large enough sections of the Base to win her millions more votes. They're not and that's why Donald won the primaries.
She's setting herself up to fail. She really needed to appeal to the Bernie people instead she sticks her middle finger up at them at every opportunity. She's too arrogant. When she finally wakes up it'll be too late. It may already be too late to save her campaign. Tim Kaine is a terrible pick.
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July 27, 2016 at 9:31 am
wallym Wrote:If you don't want to vote for Clinton or Trump, find someone of opposing ideology who doesn't want to vote for Clinton or Trump. You can vote for Stein, they can vote for Johnson. That way, you're not 'de facto voting for Trump/Clinton' since you're both subtracting one voter from each.
And showing the major parties that you're not satisfied with what they're offering.
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July 27, 2016 at 9:32 am
Alasdair Ham Wrote:A vote towards whoever has the greatest chance of defeating Trump is the best way to minimize the chances of Trump becoming president though right?
Unless you vote in a swing state, you can't help or hurt Clinton or Trump no matter how you vote. What you say is true if it's in a swing state.
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RE: WikiLeaks publishes searchable database of almost 20,000 emails from DNC.
July 27, 2016 at 9:45 am
(July 27, 2016 at 8:18 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: She's setting herself up to fail. She really needed to appeal to the Bernie people instead she sticks her middle finger up at them at every opportunity. She's too arrogant. When she finally wakes up it'll be too late. It may already be too late to save her campaign. Tim Kaine is a terrible pick.
Dude. I'm sorry, but the Bernie or Bust crowd is a small albeit vocal minority. I know you think she's sticking her middle finger up at you, but she's appealing to the vast majority of Bernie supporters like me. Tim Kaine is the Vice Presidential nominee. In American Politics, the VP is only relevant if the President dies. Joe Biden was a gaffe machine, not much else.
Hillary was pulled left by Bernie. I get that you don't trust her, nor should you. No matter what promises any presidential candidate makes, it is the Congress and the state legislatures that make the change in America. BernieBros would have felt utterly betrayed by the sheer comparative nothingness that Bernie would have gotten done in the White House, considering the promises he was making.
I care about the movement, and Bernie or Bust people are going to murder the movement. They are going to sit on their asses and sit out in protest and none of the down ballot progressives will ever have a chance. That's the real shame.
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