Help needed. The Last Reformation.

[vorlon13]

I'm not disagreeing The Last Reformation is a cult, but having a 'Christian' organization that is big on scripture cherry picking making the cult determination is preposterous.

[Minimalist]

Baptisms in trash cans and speaks in tongues.

Hmmm....

“With soap, baptism is a good thing.”

― Robert G. Ingersoll

[brewer]

I'm not disagreeing The Last Reformation is a cult, but having a 'Christian' organization that is big on scripture cherry picking making the cult determination is preposterous.

Did you get to the place in the vid where they deviate from the accepted woo to new age woo? Takes a cult to know a cult? Their cult version is just better.

And christians never stab each other in the back unless it's absolutely necessary.

[I_am_not_mafia]

Ah looks like a newspaper found it, which is probably where my mother got the whole curing of autism, cancer and homosexuality from.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/...ns-7916787

Thing is, our grandmother claimed to be a faith healer and a spiritualist yet last I heard my brother thinks that spiritualism is a corruption of Christianity misled by the devil (or something, I can't remember what).

We've stopped discussing religion when visiting my parents in case it leads to an argument. Maybe I should have continued.

Found another link. The local aren't normally sensationalistic because they don't need to be. Their market is assured because there will always be expats wanting news in English.

http://www.thelocal.es/20160506/cult-lea...s-in-spain

It occurred to me that if autism could be cured by prayer, then this disproves the concept of free will. They are claiming that one person can change the neural circuitry and thought patterns of another person, regardless of what they believe about demonic possession.

[I_am_not_mafia]

The best advice I can give is to talk to an expert. There are psychologists specialising in that kind of stuff. Don't do anything on your own and don't let anyone do something on their own. Seek advice first.

Good advice except that I don't know where to find any experts on this.

[abaris]

Good advice except that I don't know where to find any experts on this.

I don't know where you're based right now, but here's some infor for the UK I looked up.

http://cultinformation.org.uk/

http://cultinformation.org.uk/article_ca...amily.html

[robvalue]

I'm very sorry to hear that I agree that staying calm and using the SM is probably all you can do.

All religions are cults.

I agree. It's just a matter of how extreme, and how dangerous they are at any given time. Anything with dogma is dangerous.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Hardly works in situations like that. I knew quite a few people having fallen for some religious snake oil vendor. No matter how hard their relatives tried, the only result was removing them even further from their loved ones.

That's my worry. I have one card to play. He throws himself into things 100%. He's had a crisis of faith in the past and says that he understands why some people do not believe. All I can do is to ask him a few questions that throw enough doubt on the whole situation using the Socratic method. It would require staying absolutely calm throughout and not raising my voice at any point or showing any stress. All I could do is hope to plant some seeds that may grow with enough time.

I think you have as good a handle as you can on this. Good luck, Matty.