Wanna have the physics, North Carolina? Better respect trans people...

[Lek]

Says who?  Are you a therapist?

No.  Are you?  Why should a therapist decide who should use which restroom.?

Correct.  By letting them use the bathroom of their choice.  As Tazzy pointed out to you, Separate but Equal is NOT equal.

Straight men and women also are not allowed to use the restroom designated for the opposite sex.  Having common  sense laws is not unjust discrimination.

So we shouldn't make changes in our POV based on the receiving of new information?  How very predictably Christian of you.  Where do you think they have been using the toilet this whole time Lek?  When was the last time you saw a woman in the men's room?

We should make change when change is warranted.  We got rid of laws that discriminated against people because of race, for instance.  We haven't got rid of policies that don't allow men to receive prenatal care under their medical policies because that would not make sense. I don't know the last time I saw a women in the men's restroom.  If I did she probably appeared to be a man.  I haven't seen a woman undressing in the men's locker room before.  I guess she wouldn't be able to hide the fact that she is a woman (by sex).  That probably why women don't go in there.

And sometimes a shift in thinking is necessary to support what is morally correct.

That's why I'm calling for people to love and respect each other.  And that's why I believe there should be a separate facility for people with problems about the sexual segregation of restrooms.  Straight people who don't care could also use the alternative restrooms.  That way there would also be less of a stigma involved in using it.

[Lek]

I didn't answer it because I think it's a silly question.  Maybe we should have separate facilities for blonds and readheads or for tall people and short people.  But I'll still answer - no, I don't think we should segregate by race, but we shouldn't allow a black man in the women's restroom.

It speaks to the heart of what you are saying. You are arguing that one group is not deserving of the same rights of others, that they are not as deserving as others, that they are not as human as others. I simply pointed out a point in the past (one I thought may have special resonance with you) to show what way that thinking would lead, and how especially evil that way of thought is.

If you feel that my post asked a stupid question, then I truly pity you, for you have no feeling for your fellow humans.

Do you have any feelings for my wife and daughter and the millions of concerned and fearful women? This opens up the door for all kinds of bad stuff to happen, things these nuts haven't considered in the past. Like I said before, we're all involved here. How about thinking about the concerns of the other side as well as your own?

[Jesster]

Okay, let's talk respect. I'll return the same respect that you are showing me.

Lek, you are a cancerous bag of horse shit not even worthy of fertilizing a field.

[LadyForCamus]

It speaks to the heart of what you are saying. You are arguing that one group is not deserving of the same rights of others, that they are not as deserving as others, that they are not as human as others. I simply pointed out a point in the past (one I thought may have special resonance with you) to show what way that thinking would lead, and how especially evil that way of thought is.

If you feel that my post asked a stupid question, then I truly pity you, for you have no feeling for your fellow humans.

Do you have any feelings for my wife and daughter and the millions of concerned and fearful women? This opens up the door for all kinds of bad stuff to happen, things these nuts haven't considered in the past. Like I said before, we're all involved here. How about thinking about the concerns of the other side as well as your own?

All those doors are already open and have been open, Lek. ANYONE can dress up as the opposite sex and sneak into a bathroom so long as they are reasonably passable, lol. And amazingly, we don't have an epidemic of men in drag raping women in restrooms in this country. It's just as easy for a male sexual predator to wait outside a deserted public women's bathroom and follow a woman in. Easier in fact, because they wouldn't have to be bothered with all the dress-up. The whole, "or poor women and daughters will be unsafe!" rebuttal is complete nonsense and completely unfounded.

[LadyForCamus]

No.  Are you?

No, but I do believe good evidence exists which demonstrates allowing a transgendered person to live their life according to the gender their brain identifies with is an effective therapeutic plan for many of those individuals. Why you feel the need to stand in the way of that is beyond me.

Straight men and women also are not allowed to use the restroom designated for the opposite sex.  Having common  sense laws is not unjust discrimination.

Since when did sexual orientation become a part of this discussion? You understand that sexual preference and gender identity are two different things, yes? And what in the world does sexual orientation have to do with urinating and defecating? I, for one, had no idea bathrooms were so sexy. [emoji848]

I don't know the last time I saw a women in the men's restroom.  If I did she probably appeared to be a man.

Exactly. And that hasn't disrupted your life thus far, correct?

That's why I'm calling for people to love and respect each other.  And that's why I believe there should be a separate facility for people with problems about the sexual segregation of restrooms.  Straight people who don't care could also use the alternative bathrooms

Again Lek, "gay" and "transgendered" are not synonyms. You can "call" for love and respect all you want, but your position reeks of bigotry, discrimination, and willful ignorance. Not to mention, it's completely void of evidence in favor.

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[The Grand Nudger]

Jesus christ, can a motherfucker shit in peace or what....why is this so difficult?

[Edwardo Piet]

Okay, let's talk respect. I'll return the same respect that you are showing me.

Lek, you are a cancerous bag of horse shit not even worthy of fertilizing a field.

I feel evil for laughing so hard at that.

[Edwardo Piet]

Do you have any feelings for my wife and daughter and the millions of concerned and fearful women?  This opens up the door for all kinds of bad stuff to happen, things these nuts haven't considered in the past.  Like I said before, we're all involved here.  How about thinking about the concerns of the other side as well as your own?

All those doors are already open and have been open, Lek.  ANYONE can dress up as the opposite sex and sneak into a bathroom so long as they are reasonably passable, lol.  And amazingly, we don't have an epidemic of men in drag raping women in restrooms in this country.  It's just as easy for a male sexual predator to wait outside a deserted public women's bathroom and follow a woman in.  Easier in fact, because they wouldn't have to be bothered with all the dress-up.  The whole, "or poor women and daughters will be unsafe!" rebuttal is complete nonsense and completely unfounded.  

QFT

[The Grand Nudger]

It's a hell of alot easier for a perv to just, you know...go into their own sexes bathroom where there are plenty of little boys.

"Oh my wife and children my wife and children!"
-What about your son?
"Meh, fuck him."

[Minimalist]

Do you have any feelings for my wife and daughter and the millions of concerned and fearful women?

No.