What God is to the Universe is what your mind is to your body

[Silver]

You found a pattern alright, one that suits your theory.

[Arkilogue]

You found a pattern alright, one that suits your theory.

The pattern emerges from pure Newtonian equal opposite reactions in a contracting homogeneous substance. An infinite substance. The pattern is inherent in the relative spatial relationships the substance has with itself.

The contraction of this substance creates space. For the outward contraction you need and equal/opposite inward contraction. The contraction is radial, establishing a border sphere and a center real point with a tensor field in equilibrium between them.

The inverse of this 3 part "holon" directly predicts and describes the anatomy and behavior of an atom.

Inverting this holon gives me a large spherical central component with a smaller point-like component flying around in a probability field, establishing a discrete spherical border condition.

The action and appearance is cymatic: Vibration creates form. If you vibrate a round bucket full of water, you get round internal standing waves. if you vibrate a square bucket you get square waves. The universe is a spherical container and makes spherical internal wave-forms.

[Cyberman]

I am quite certain it can be added to the hooey category, nonetheless.

Do you know the etymological roots of the words "father" and "mother"

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=father

Old English fæder "he who begets a child, nearest male ancestor;" also "any lineal male ancestor; the Supreme Being," and by late Old English, "one who exercises parental care over another," from Proto-Germanic *fader (source also of Old Saxon fadar[/i,] Old Frisian [i]feder, Dutch vader]/i], Old Norse [i]faðir, Old High German fatar, German vater; in Gothic usually expressed by atta), from PIE *pəter- "father" (source also of Sanskrit pitar-, Greek pater, Latin [/i]pater, Old Persian pita, Old Irish athir "father"), presumably from baby-speak sound "pa." The ending formerly was regarded as an agent-noun affix.

The classic example of Grimm's Law, where PIE "p-" becomes Germanic "f-." Spelling with -th- (15c.) reflects widespread phonetic shift in Middle English that turned -der to -ther in many words, perhaps reinforced in this case by Old Norse forms; spelling caught up to pronunciation in 1500s (compare mother (n.), weather (n.)). As a title of various Church dignitaries from c. 1300; meaning "creator, inventor, author" is from mid-14c.; that of "anything that gives rise to something else" is from late 14c. As a respectful title for an older man, recorded from 1550s. Father-figure is from 1954. Fathers "leading men, elders" is from 1580s.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term...in_frame=0

Old English modor "female parent," from Proto-Germanic *mothær (source also of Old Saxon modar, Old Frisian moder, Old Norse moðir, Danish moder, Dutch moeder, Old High German muoter, German Mutter), from PIE *mater- "mother" (source also of Latin mater, Old Irish mathir, Lithuanian mote, Sanskrit matar-, Greek meter, Old Church Slavonic mati), "[b]ased ultimately on the baby-talk form *[/i]mā[/i]- (2); with the kinship term suffix *-ter-" [Watkins]. Spelling with -th- dates from early 16c., though that pronunciation is probably older (see father (n.)).

Mother nature first attested c. 1600; mother earth is from 1580s. Mother tongue "one's native language" first attested late 14c. Mother of all ________ 1991, is Gulf War slang, from Saddam Hussein's use in reference to the coming battle; it is an Arabic idiom (as well as an English one), for instance Ayesha, second wife of Muhammad, is known as Mother of Believers. Mother Carey's chickens is late 18c. sailors' nickname for storm petrels, or for snowflakes. Mother lode in the figurative sense is attested by c. 1882, from mining (1849); see lode.

Why? I mean, I love etymology and language; I'm just curious as to what this has to do with anything.

(Edit: never mind, I see you brain-farted again.)

Pattern
early 14c., "outline, plan, model, pattern;" early 15c. as "model of behavior, exemplar," from Old French patron and directly from Medieval Latin patronus (see patron).

Matter
c. 1200, materie, "subject of thought, speech, or expression," from Anglo-French matere, Old French matere "subject, theme, topic; substance, content, material; character, education" (12c., Modern French matière), from Latin materia "substance from which something is made," also "hard inner wood of a tree" (source also of Portuguese madeira "wood"), from mater "origin, source, mother" (see mother (n.1)). Or, on another theory, it represents *dmateria, from PIE root *dem-/*dom- (source of Latin domus "house," English timber). With sense development in Latin influenced by Greek hyle (see hylo-), of which it was the equivalent in philosophy.

Meaning "physical substance generally, matter, material" is early 14c.; that of "substance of which some specific object is made or consists of" is attested from late 14c. That of "piece of business, affair, activity, situation, circumstance" is from late 14c. From mid-14c. as "subject of a literary work, content of what is written, main theme." Also in Middle English as "cause, reasons, ground; essential character; field of investigation."

So no, neither the words nor the concepts are related.

[Arkilogue]

Do you know the etymological roots of the words "father" and "mother"

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=father

Old English fæder "he who begets a child, nearest male ancestor;" also "any lineal male ancestor; the Supreme Being," and by late Old English, "one who exercises parental care over another," from Proto-Germanic *fader (source also of Old Saxon fadar[/i,] Old Frisian [i]feder, Dutch vader]/i], Old Norse [i]faðir, Old High German fatar, German vater; in Gothic usually expressed by atta), from PIE *pəter- "father" (source also of Sanskrit pitar-, Greek pater, Latin [/i]pater, Old Persian pita, Old Irish athir "father"), presumably from baby-speak sound "pa." The ending formerly was regarded as an agent-noun affix.

The classic example of Grimm's Law, where PIE "p-" becomes Germanic "f-." Spelling with -th- (15c.) reflects widespread phonetic shift in Middle English that turned -der to -ther in many words, perhaps reinforced in this case by Old Norse forms; spelling caught up to pronunciation in 1500s (compare mother (n.), weather (n.)). As a title of various Church dignitaries from c. 1300; meaning "creator, inventor, author" is from mid-14c.; that of "anything that gives rise to something else" is from late 14c. As a respectful title for an older man, recorded from 1550s. Father-figure is from 1954. Fathers "leading men, elders" is from 1580s.[/i]

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term...in_frame=0

Old English modor "female parent," from Proto-Germanic *mothær (source also of Old Saxon modar, Old Frisian moder, Old Norse moðir, Danish moder, Dutch moeder, Old High German muoter, German Mutter), from PIE *mater- "mother" (source also of Latin mater, Old Irish mathir, Lithuanian mote, Sanskrit matar-, Greek meter, Old Church Slavonic mati), "[b]ased ultimately on the baby-talk form *

mā[/i]- (2); with the kinship term suffix *-ter-" [Watkins]. Spelling with -th- dates from early 16c., though that pronunciation is probably older (see father (n.)).

Mother nature first attested c. 1600; mother earth is from 1580s. Mother tongue "one's native language" first attested late 14c. Mother of all ________ 1991, is Gulf War slang, from Saddam Hussein's use in reference to the coming battle; it is an Arabic idiom (as well as an English one), for instance Ayesha, second wife of Muhammad, is known as Mother of Believers. Mother Carey's chickens is late 18c. sailors' nickname for storm petrels, or for snowflakes. Mother lode in the figurative sense is attested by c. 1882, from mining (1849); see lode.

Why? I mean, I love etymology and language; I'm just curious as to what this has to do with anything.

In finding underlying meanings in why God would be allegorically referred to as a Father or a Mother...or both.

[Cyberman]

See my edit.

[The Grand Nudger]

You do realize all three of those are the same thing, right?

I suppose I could have just said "dumb, dumb....dumb" - but then the OP wouldn't have known why, which is important.  

Call it morbid curiosity, but....what -don't- you find "underlying meaning" in, Ark?

[Arkilogue]

See my edit.

http://carljungdepthpsychology.blogspot....er-or.html

http://www.matterandpattern.com/about-m-p/

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You do realize all three of those are the same thing, right?

I suppose I could have just said "dumb, dumb....dumb" - but then the OP wouldn't have known why, which is important.  

Call it morbid curiosity, but....what -don't- you find "underlying meaning" in, Ark?

Little to nothing given the 13 billion year stack of universal order and snowball like accumulation of language/knowledge/culture in human development.

"We see plans within plans" Dune, Spice Navigator.

[Cyberman]

“Mater, the Latin word for “mother,” has given rise to the word “matter”….

The Latin word for “father,” pater, gave rise to... “pattern.”

Thus, [our circumstances] can be seen as coming from both a mother and father, the mating of
matter + pattern.”

— A Beginner’s Guide to Constructing the Universe

As I have just demonstrated pretty comprehensively, using a non-biased resource purely on the subject of etymology (which you brought up), that is not true.

[The Grand Nudger]

Little to nothing given the 13 billion year stack of universal order and snowball like accumulation of language/knowledge/culture in human development.

"We see plans within plans" Dune, Spice Navigator.

Why then, would seeing an underlying meaning here or anywhere else -mean- anything more than whatever underlying divine meaning resides in your taking a morning shit?  It becomes another term for "normal stuff happening".

Meh, not even fun crazy...boring crazy. A deranged accountant..when I was hoping for a murderous clown.

[Ravenshire]

Hooey was on topic.  Obviously.

The topic as I understand it: If there is a God, what is it's relationship to the universe?  Op postulated God was to the universe like the mind is to the human body.

I've asserted that God is like the Father to a Mother and the universe is the womb and everything in it part of a developing life form.  I haven't gotten into why yet.

And I'll postulate that gawd is to an adult as an imaginary friend is to a child.