Is Russia about to invade Ukraine?

[abaris]

Not quite true.   T-34 held a firepower, armor and mobility advantage until mid-1943.   But by mid 1942, Germans were deploying updated panzers III and IVs that would defeat it, although not equal it.    After July 1943 German Panther came into service, and substantially surpassed t-34 in armor and firepower, and matched it in tactical mobility.

But it was designed after the T34. But, and that's the deciding factor, between 1942 and 1945 less than 5000 have been produced. Even less Tigers. The T34 was as simple a concept as could be and it ruled the battlefield because of it's large production numbers whereas the Germans still relied mainly on the Panzer IV, constantly upgrading it's weapons and armaments.

[Jello]

Sure, quality over quantity, but here's the thing, there's a second half to the phrase.

The full phrase is "Quality over quantity, but quantity has a quality of it's own".

[Thumpalumpacus]

If he's going to do something like that, Ukraine isn't his end goal, europe as a whole is. And depending on the speed of his forces, it is entirely possible they could pull it off relatively successfully.

Can a single person be that uninformed, to put it mildly? Have you any idea how strong the conventional Russian army actually is? Have you any idea how many people actually live in Russia? It was 143,5 millions in 2013. Have you any idea how large Russia actually is and how that translates into population density? Have you any idea how populated Europe actually is? Have you any figures on how strong the conventional European armies are?

Got another thing to pull from your ass?

Here's a comparison between the Russian, US and british forces in 2014.



That's facts and numbers for the German army.

http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-m...id=germany

France

http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-m..._id=france

Poland, direct neighbour of Russia

http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-m..._id=poland

Counting all 1.4 million American troops as being deployed against Russia is silly.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Yeah, that's the usual narrative.  It helped that their tank design was fucking visionary, too (since you mentioned tanks).  The 34 and IS were monstrous.  German armor didn't stand a chance (a fact which was immediately realized by german tank commanders and generals).

... who pretty much demanded a copy of the T-34, revolutionary as it was. The Panther was a good wagon, but without that aluminum-block diesel and that 85-mm rifle, and chock-a-block with bugs, it took a while for it to turn into an effective AFV.