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Poll: Does free will exist?
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No, I'm a hard determinist.
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Yes, I'm a compatibilist.
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7 46.67%
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Free Will
#41
RE: Free Will
(August 21, 2016 at 6:24 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: Unless in unbearable pain or in a scenario where a sacrifice might be needed to save one's loved ones, suicide is irrational. We have the drive to survive. Just because not all of our drives make complete sense in our era, that one can't be broken by mere fancy philosophy and/or power of will. That one is there for the ride, pretty much forever. As long as one lives, one will wish to continue to live. If there appeared a drug tomorrow to grant immortality and freedom from all sickness and it was distributed freely to everyone, only mentally ill people wouldn't be willing to take it. Everyone else would, to a one.

Yes, I'm back to my old self where I make assertive statements like that. That doesn't mean I'm going to insult people, I'm merely expressing my opinion in a certain confident manner in order to generate as much discussion as possible.

And yet, in this very post, you insulted people who would refuse the immortality drug.

*Shaking my head and chuckling*
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#42
RE: Free Will
(August 21, 2016 at 6:31 am)Irrational Wrote:
(August 21, 2016 at 6:24 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: Unless in unbearable pain or in a scenario where a sacrifice might be needed to save one's loved ones, suicide is irrational. We have the drive to survive. Just because not all of our drives make complete sense in our era, that one can't be broken by mere fancy philosophy and/or power of will. That one is there for the ride, pretty much forever. As long as one lives, one will wish to continue to live. If there appeared a drug tomorrow to grant immortality and freedom from all sickness and it was distributed freely to everyone, only mentally ill people wouldn't be willing to take it. Everyone else would, to a one.

Yes, I'm back to my old self where I make assertive statements like that. That doesn't mean I'm going to insult people, I'm merely expressing my opinion in a certain confident manner in order to generate as much discussion as possible.

And yet, in this very post, you insulted people who would refuse the immortality drug.

*Shaking my head and chuckling*

And yet calling sane people who wouldn't take it crazy for not taking it was clearly not what I was getting at, but rather that I believe so many people would take it that I'm comfortable hyperbolizing.
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#43
RE: Free Will
(August 21, 2016 at 6:22 am)Gemini Wrote: Heart Camus

I know Big Grin

Quote:I have to go to work unfortunately.  Angry Why can't we just talk about philosophy all day? Sleep and work are absurd.

Haha I know right? Big Grin

I love how you made a grumpy face! Haha. It's my favorite smiley on AF I think Big Grin
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#44
RE: Free Will
(August 21, 2016 at 6:24 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: Yes, I'm back to my old self where I make assertive statements like that. That doesn't mean I'm going to insult people, I'm merely expressing my opinion in a certain confident manner in order to generate as much discussion as possible.

I love your, what I would describe as, self-referential personality.
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#45
RE: Free Will
(August 21, 2016 at 6:31 am)Irrational Wrote:
(August 21, 2016 at 6:24 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: Unless in unbearable pain or in a scenario where a sacrifice might be needed to save one's loved ones, suicide is irrational. We have the drive to survive. Just because not all of our drives make complete sense in our era, that one can't be broken by mere fancy philosophy and/or power of will. That one is there for the ride, pretty much forever. As long as one lives, one will wish to continue to live. If there appeared a drug tomorrow to grant immortality and freedom from all sickness and it was distributed freely to everyone, only mentally ill people wouldn't be willing to take it. Everyone else would, to a one.

Yes, I'm back to my old self where I make assertive statements like that. That doesn't mean I'm going to insult people, I'm merely expressing my opinion in a certain confident manner in order to generate as much discussion as possible.

And yet, in this very post, you insulted people who would refuse the immortality drug.

*Shaking my head and chuckling*

He said that he believed only mentally ill people would willingly refuse it.

Where's the insult?

"Mentally ill" is not an insult... you are aware of that right?
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#46
RE: Free Will
(August 21, 2016 at 9:57 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote:
(August 21, 2016 at 6:31 am)Irrational Wrote: And yet, in this very post, you insulted people who would refuse the immortality drug.

*Shaking my head and chuckling*

He said that he believed only mentally ill people would willingly refuse it.

Where's the insult?

"Mentally ill" is not an insult... you are aware of that right?

That depends on context. But now that he elaborated on what he meant, fair enough.
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#47
RE: Free Will
Sorry I guess I was a little rude Heart
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#48
RE: Free Will
(August 21, 2016 at 10:32 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Sorry I guess I was a little rude Heart

Not a big deal. It was a failure on my part by misinterpreting EP.
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#49
RE: Free Will
This is getting a little too fucking mushy, but I'm sorry too, I could've tried to be clearer.
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#50
RE: Free Will
I love you guys Love Of no free will of my own Heart

Sorry I'm so mushy Blush No free will of my own Heart

#conflatingdeterminismwithfatalism #usingnofreewillasanexcusetobemushy
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