Understanding Narcissism

[Edwardo Piet]

It's like a real life game of mafia isn't it...lol.

You know, that's probably why I've never lost a game of mafia.....noobs.  I have a performance enhancing disorder, the mafia equivalent of a doper crushing the 100m.  

And when it comes to Mafia I get Narcissistic Supply from being the biggest poster and most anti-town tunnelling bastard and most difficult person to play with. I thrive on the negative attention. Totally. I mean... turtley. For realz. Innit. (Pretending to be sarcastic so no one finds me out).

[Regina]

I think using celebrities as examples of narcissism based on "weird behaviour" is tricky, because you have to remember, these are people who are almost constantly in the spotlight. Celebrities like Rihanna can't live "normal" lives because they can't go out without being mobbed by paparazzi and/or fans, who don't care about the celebrities' personal space because they're more concerned with "OMG I MET RIHANNA!!!!!!". They also face constant media speculation about what's going on in their lives, which often includes very false and spiteful rumours. If a celebrity appears self-serving or acting in a strange way, it might not necessarily be their personality, it could actually be frustration at the lack of respect for privacy and empathy that people can have for them.

And that's especially pertinent to a lot of these younger celebrities who blow up when they're teenagers, who are still finding themselves in life. It's typically the people who started their careers as teenagers, like Lindsay Lohan, Britney, Justin Bieber and others, who are the ones most likely to fly off the handle.  

Some can obviously handle the fame better than others though. I don't want to sound biased since I am a fan of Rihanna, she's not perfect, but she's kept herself together far better than a lot of others.

[Edwardo Piet]

There are a lot of reasons someone can seek attention. Rhianna would need an actual diagnosis. After all Histrionic Personality Disorder (HPD) has attention seeking behavior too and it's far more common in females whereas NPD is far more common in males.

[Edwardo Piet]

(ah, but I'm desperately seeking kudos for that novella...so no...I haven't recovered.  I don't have a cure, can't tell people how to cure themselves.  What I've done, is just retask it and consciously build a better habit set.  There's always the chance, and frankly the fear...that I'll dive back down into the oubliette and fuck up the life I've built for myself.  I did it once before...and all it took was one really shitty day at work.)

Kudos me more and I may kudos you more

[Regina]

I actually knew a guy who I think had a sociopathic and narcissistic personality. It's absolutely horrible when you meet someone like that, because they're so manipulative and can say horrible things but talk their way out of it.

This was my Mom's ex-boyfriend, who I've spoken about many times on this forum. He was an absolute monster, telling lies about our Dad just to compensate and cover up that he was doing the exact same things he claimed he didn't like about him. He said abusive things about my brother, which again was hypocritical, because the things he was criticizing about my brother was also stuff he was guilty of (parasitical behaviour). He made threats of violence on several occasions.

I can only think how fortunate it is that Mom finally woke up and kicked him out.

[GrandizerII]

There are a lot of reasons someone can seek attention. Rhianna would need an actual diagnosis. After all Histrionic Personality Disorder (HPD) has attention seeking behavior too and it's far more common in females whereas NPD is far more common in males.

My amateur opinion, but did read a bit about this a while ago: Could be due to sexist interpretations/expectations. A male person might be better diagnosed with HPD but end up being diagnosed as NPD because Histrionic behaviour may manifest differently in male persons than in female persons in general. And if you think about it, the ideal HPD person in people's minds is usually female whereas ideal NPD figure is usually male. Which may reinforce the idea that HPD is predominantly female while NPD predominantly male.

[Edwardo Piet]

Yes. HPD is also hypersexual but that is considered normal in males because manslut shaming doesn't seem to exist.

IMO every attractive adult female should behave like a complete, turtle and utter slut including asexuals just so I get to have more fun.

[The Grand Nudger]

Some can obviously handle the fame better than others though. I don't want to sound biased since I am a fan of Rihanna, she's not perfect, but she's kept herself together far better than a lot of others.

She does seem to have kept it together admirably.

Celebrities aren't crazy -people-, they're normal people with crazy bank accounts and crazy lives.  Hand me that much cash...subject me to that level of scrutinty...and watch how quickly I circle the batshit drain. I;d demand a cannon that fired boxes of kittens and provide a public demonstration of the tech in the parking lot of the local vietnamese restaurant...just because I was bored and had run out of "normal" shit to do and spend my money on.

That's the way this always goes. We hear about them initially, they become celebrities. Then it goes dark for awhile...and the next time we hear about them it's positively fucking tragic. In the interim...thy ran out of shit to do but didn't run out of money or time.

"OMG, did you hear about rhythm...remember last year when he was so normal, he won the lotto...I heard he built a Kitty Kannon™ and some of the cats went through a semi window on i-64 - there was a huge pileup...now he's in prison and the legal defense took every penny he had left...so sad...I heard he even found jesus in there...so I guess that's where ole JC was hiding all this time!"

[GrandizerII]

Yes. HPD is also hypersexual but that is considered normal in males because manslut shaming doesn't seem to exist.

IMO every attractive adult female should behave like a complete, turtle and utter slut including asexuals just so I get to have more fun.

Which makes me sometimes question whether this should even be a disorder anymore.

[Whateverist]