(September 11, 2016 at 4:21 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Never concede a good point to this idiot. There isn't one this side of sanity.
Good point.
XD
Question's for God.
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(September 11, 2016 at 4:21 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Never concede a good point to this idiot. There isn't one this side of sanity. Good point. XD RE: Question's for God.
September 11, 2016 at 5:59 pm
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(September 11, 2016 at 8:05 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Rolfing, Buddhist meditation, Christian worship, Hindu ritual -- it's all the same. Everybody feels themselves to be on the right path. You aren't special because your meditation makes you feel special. You're just a twat who doesn't realize how insignificant his personal feelings are in the matter. That's why we rely on evidence, because feelings are a fool's guide. And you don't have squat for evidence of the effectiveness of Yoga, of reincarnation, of karma, of Sarkar's authenticity. But you disregard these simple truths because you're overwhelmed by your 'feelings'. And who's path is the right one for everyone? Which branch on a tree is the correct branch? Feelings are the only thing you have to explore your interior, and everyone is at different stages of growth. "The Path" evolves as you do....or don't. Mine has evolved beyond the need for any scriptural or cultural support. I have proved/found what I needed to for myself, by myself and I am satisfied. Good for me and BFD right? I sought out what was necessary for me and me alone by feeling alone because no scientific instrument can peer inside my mind. You either feel it out for yourself or you believe what others tell you...or don't believe anything at all. But those who default to only objective data will remain on the surface of themselves. If you don't explore your own mystery, who can?
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder (September 11, 2016 at 7:19 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(September 11, 2016 at 1:57 am)Little Rik Wrote: NDEs tell us so but I don't really need that to get the confirm. Wrong again yog. You didn't bother to read the hundred of NDEs experiences. Most of them talk about reincarnation and the fact that people have to sort out their own problems BEFORE they can gain access to the sublime state. By sorting out their own problems the karma is involved and reincarnation is a must. http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Archives/...counts.htm (September 11, 2016 at 1:57 am)Little Rik Wrote: By practicing yoga everything come clear within. Quote:Got any evidence to go with this claim? Practicing is the only way to get the evidence. I got the evidence you don't. How can you if you don't practice? Can you pass the evidence to me that by making love love is real and beautiful? Wouldn't you tell me....you try yourself if you want the evidence. This is how the system works yog. You never thought about it yog, did you? (September 11, 2016 at 1:57 am)Little Rik Wrote: There is something yog that you will never be good with as far as you keep your stubborn mind in front of what make sense. Quote:Got any evidence to go with this bald assertion? Everybody 'thinks' they are on the right path. You, me, my neighbor down the street. You're just stupid enough to believe that you thinking you are on the right path is significant for you. You're too dim to realize that because 'everybody' believes themselves to be on the right path, believing yourself to be on the right path means nothing. Your belief in your path is a dime a dozen. Is true that..........Everybody 'thinks' they are on the right path.......no question about it yog. Most of the time is next to impossible to see whether someone is right or not. Is quite difficult to see inside someone consciousness. That doesn't mean that someone can not be right just because you can not see within them. (September 11, 2016 at 1:57 am)Little Rik Wrote: You take the risk that you may waste your time and get nowhere but if you succeed you avoid Quote:This is nothing but faith and confirmation bias talking. You are in fact just wasting your time. You've got nothing to indicate otherwise. If you like to go slow and wait for the winning lottery ticket that is okay with me. (September 11, 2016 at 1:57 am)Little Rik Wrote: You act exactly like the slow moving people. Quote:Look before you leap is still sound advice. When you started following Sarkar you had no idea if he was for real or not. You leapt before you looked. And now here you are 40 years later, still suckered by the words of a con man. You've got no evidence for your claims about meditation, karma, and reincarnation. You say you believe them because they make sense. Well Rapunzel's hair growing while she waited in the tower makes sense. Sleeping beauty having to await a handsome prince makes sense. Things make sense in fairy tales because they're completely made up. There are no details of reality getting in the way of the story because it's all made up. Sarkar and Yoga are all made up as well. No your 'experiences' don't count for squat. You've convinced yourself over 40 years that you're following the right path. That's just what people do, whether or not they are on the right path. The 40 year Christian is just as convinced. The 40 year Buddhist is just as convinced. All you've got is your fairy tale about karma and reincarnation and a heap of confirmation bias. It's worth nothing. I certainly have the evidence that Sarkar was right. The progress within is the clear evidence. (September 11, 2016 at 8:05 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:Quote:There is a Rolfer in my hometown who advertises that Rolfing brings "a sense of integration and well being." The ad even quotes an M.D. who says: "Rolfing works. Not only can it dramatically change people's bodies. It can transform their lives as well." Rolfing, according to the advertisement, has "evolved into a gentle deep muscle balancing process that structurally aligns your body." (The word 'gentle' is boldfaced in the ad.) He also claims that after ten sessions there are long-term results, which include "Physical and Emotional Flexibility" and "A Sense of Integration and Well Being." Didn't anybody told you that evidence in love business only come by personal experience? Can't get it yog, do you? (September 11, 2016 at 4:28 pm)ScienceAf Wrote:(September 11, 2016 at 4:21 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Never concede a good point to this idiot. There isn't one this side of sanity. Never concede a good point to that idiot. These folks go around the forum telling that the consciousness is a product of the brain or backing up those who say so and come up with other fantasies as well. (September 11, 2016 at 8:23 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(September 11, 2016 at 1:57 am)Little Rik Wrote: Take the people who get rich. By not taking any risk it will take ages and ages to get where you wish to get. As far as the system of yoga that I follow works very well I have no regret of whatsoever. Karma and reincarnation exist not just because they make sense and answer all the questions but also because the NDEs experiences confirm that. If you also take the great figures of the past like Shiva, krishna, Buddha, Jesus that also said that then everything adds up.
Mathew 11:29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga Etymology In Vedic Sanskrit, yoga (from the root yuj) means "to add", "to join", "to unite", or "to attach" in its most common literal sense....According to Dasgupta, the term yoga can be derived from either of two roots, yujir yoga (to yoke) or yuj samādhau (to concentrate).[23] A yoga of light (consciousness) for the mind/soul.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder (September 12, 2016 at 5:08 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Mathew 11:29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” A bit unusual to find someone in this forum that does not criticize yoga. Welcome aboard Ark. (September 10, 2016 at 9:43 am)Little Rik Wrote: A bit unusual to find someone in this forum that does not criticize yoga. I recognize what it's meant to be.
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Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder |
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