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RE: Devil's advocate for why ontology is meaningless and vacuous.
September 11, 2016 at 4:06 pm
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RE: Devil's advocate for why ontology is meaningless and vacuous.
September 11, 2016 at 5:37 pm
Yeah I know I was making a joke.
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RE: Devil's advocate for why ontology is meaningless and vacuous.
September 11, 2016 at 9:27 pm
(September 11, 2016 at 5:37 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Yeah I know I was making a joke.
Not used to that here yet
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RE: Devil's advocate for why ontology is meaningless and vacuous.
September 12, 2016 at 5:46 am
Yup, you need a careful mix of science and philosophy. Neither are much good on their own. The classic mistake theists often make is to try and use philosophy to extend beyond what science can test. That's just totally flawed.
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RE: Devil's advocate for why ontology is meaningless and vacuous.
September 12, 2016 at 8:33 am
(September 12, 2016 at 5:46 am)robvalue Wrote: Yup, you need a careful mix of science and philosophy. Neither are much good on their own. The classic mistake theists often make is to try and use philosophy to extend beyond what science can test. That's just totally flawed.
But isn't that a philosophical claim about the utility of science that cannot itself be subjected to any scientific test? Don't get me wrong, I agree that empirical data is of utmost importance in verifying a claim. But do I think that all knowledge depends on experience? I think that might be difficult to establish, philosophically or scientifically!
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