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RE: Church demands the victim apologize to pastor's wife since the pastor did the rape.
September 13, 2016 at 12:21 pm
(September 13, 2016 at 11:41 am)Drich Wrote: (September 13, 2016 at 9:54 am)Chad32 Wrote: If she did something like send naked pics to the guy, the proper response is not go have sex with her. Two wrongs don't make a right, assuming she even did anything wrong in the first place. What we've been presented with is a guy doing something illegal, and being absolved of it by the church because he's supposedly a holy man.
If she did anything illegal, he should have gone to her parents, or the police. If what she did was legal, like wearing revealing clothing, or doing something that could be interpreted as flirting, then it's still the man's fault for giving in and breaking the law.
If that's all she did, then that just means she's a teenager. That her body is functioning in the way it should. We should not get angry when babies cry, and we should not get angry when teenagers explore their sexuality. These are normal behaviors. Not immoral.
I agree with everything you said except the last line.
I don't want to live in a world where it is normal for a 16 year old to try to seduce a married man by sending naked pictures (if again this is what happened) to Him and only holding the man accountable.
Again read the article they were texting for some time and it stopped for a while when the wife found out but picked back up after sometime...
The article does not mention pictures, but I can't imagine texting that leads to sex that does not include some 'previews.'
Well that's too bad, because teenagers are horny, and being married does not make someone unattractive. Not much you can do about it. There are legal action you can take against something like that, but doing the dirty deed is not one of them.
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RE: Church demands the victim apologize to pastor's wife since the pastor did the rape.
September 13, 2016 at 1:03 pm
(September 13, 2016 at 9:28 am)Drich Wrote: If little miss can't be wrong did shake her little behind in front of someone then she should not be suprized when/if someone drives a truck through it.
I have to admit, I lol'd at that.
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RE: Church demands the victim apologize to pastor's wife since the pastor did the rape.
September 13, 2016 at 1:06 pm
(September 13, 2016 at 11:41 am)Drich Wrote: (September 13, 2016 at 9:54 am)Chad32 Wrote: If she did something like send naked pics to the guy, the proper response is not go have sex with her. Two wrongs don't make a right, assuming she even did anything wrong in the first place. What we've been presented with is a guy doing something illegal, and being absolved of it by the church because he's supposedly a holy man.
If she did anything illegal, he should have gone to her parents, or the police. If what she did was legal, like wearing revealing clothing, or doing something that could be interpreted as flirting, then it's still the man's fault for giving in and breaking the law.
If that's all she did, then that just means she's a teenager. That her body is functioning in the way it should. We should not get angry when babies cry, and we should not get angry when teenagers explore their sexuality. These are normal behaviors. Not immoral.
I agree with everything you said except the last line.
I don't want to live in a world where it is normal for a 16 year old to try to seduce a married man by sending naked pictures (if again this is what happened) to Him and only holding the man accountable.
Again read the article they were texting for some time and it stopped for a while when the wife found out but picked back up after sometime...
The article does not mention pictures, but I can't imagine texting that leads to sex that does not include some 'previews.'
"Leads to sex"?? You have to be kidding. The pastor was tried, convicted, and sentenced to ten years for RAPE.
I just... talk about not wanting to live in a world with something. I don't want to live in a world with you in it, Drich. You are disgusting.
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
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RE: Church demands the victim apologize to pastor's wife since the pastor did the rape.
September 13, 2016 at 1:25 pm
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(September 13, 2016 at 11:04 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Coercion comes in many forms, Huggy. "You'll be quiet about this or we'll out you as a slut." "Who's going to believe a 16-year-old against a pastor?!"
Or it could be that she refused him sex four times and he still forced himself upon her, and she simply had to find the courage to tell someone. Just because you've had sex with someone previously doesn't mean they cannot turn you down.
A guilty plea is a sign of overwhelming evidence pointing to guilt.
Seeing how the church caught the pastors texts before it had turned sexual, there would have been plenty of reasons to belive her over the pastor.
Furthermore, pleading guilty doesn't imply that the prosecution has overwhelming evidence at all, on the contrary. You don't need any evidence to convict anyone of rape, just the accusation of the victim.
No matter how consensual the sex was, if a woman decides it was rape, just go ahead and bend over and accept the raping the judicial system is about to lay on you.
Rape is just one of those instances that requires one to prove thier innocence, any lawyer will advise you to take a plea deal.
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RE: Church demands the victim apologize to pastor's wife since the pastor did the rape.
September 13, 2016 at 2:09 pm
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RE: Church demands the victim apologize to pastor's wife since the pastor did the rape.
September 13, 2016 at 2:57 pm
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RE: Church demands the victim apologize to pastor's wife since the pastor did the rape.
September 13, 2016 at 6:39 pm
I didn't say that plea deals never happen. Enjoy beating that straw man around, though.
As for what my links demonstrate, they show that charges can and do get dropped in these sorts of cases. I had thought that much would be obvious.
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September 13, 2016 at 7:08 pm
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RE: Church demands the victim apologize to pastor's wife since the pastor did the rape.
September 13, 2016 at 7:22 pm
Do you think these accusers recant out of the goodness of their hearts?
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RE: Church demands the victim apologize to pastor's wife since the pastor did the rape.
September 13, 2016 at 7:48 pm
I don't really know the point you're trying to make.
If they had a good heart, they probably wouldn't of leveled false accusations in the first place.
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