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RE: Hillary's 47% Moment
September 14, 2016 at 11:30 am
(September 14, 2016 at 10:33 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: RobertE Wrote:So, Hilary stated that Trump supporters are racist, homophobic etc...
So, there are no racists who support Clinton then?
She said half of Trump supporters are racist, homophobic, etc....
About 60% of them believe the president is secretly a Muslim, born in Kenya, or both. 20% of them are doubtful that freeing the slaves was a good idea.
Of course there are racists who support Clinton. No one said otherwise. She doesn't seem to be pandering to them to get the racist vote, though.
I don't even know why you brought Obama up, since he is NOT 100% black. Muhammed Ali was black, Marcus Garvey was black, Robert Mugabe is black, Obama is a Heinz 57 who gets his humour from his Irish origins.
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RE: Hillary's 47% Moment
September 14, 2016 at 1:44 pm
(September 14, 2016 at 10:33 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: She said half of Trump supporters are racist, homophobic, etc....
She misspoke. She meant ALL are.
(September 14, 2016 at 10:33 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Of course there are racists who support Clinton. No one said otherwise. She doesn't seem to be pandering to them to get the racist vote, though.
She ain't in no ways tired.
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RE: Hillary's 47% Moment
September 14, 2016 at 2:10 pm
(September 14, 2016 at 10:39 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: ChadWooters Wrote:Well, if the New York Times said it it MUST be true! (sarcasm) And was there an actual indictment? You do realize that anyone who is successful makes themselves a target for litigation. 1973 !?!?! Really. That's what you're clinging to. C'mon.
Why are you bringing up indictments when your claim is that no one ever accused Trump of being a racist until he became a presidential candidate?
Never mind. I know why.
I was being hyperbolic about the flippant way Democrats make accusations of racism not making any reference to litigation which is an oversight on my part.
You are right. If you discourage welfare recipients from renting in a luxury apartment building and a minority group is disproportionately receiving welfare then fewer minority applicants would be accepted. In 1973 very few businesses took much into consideration disparate effects in their policies. That kind of awareness has taken time to develop and American society is to be commended, not reviled, for making steady gains in achieving civil equality. If you want to make the disparate effect of applying race-neutral standards 43 years ago, during a time of widespread limited awareness of disparate effects a disqualifying circumstance, then you have your standards. I am more concerned about current political corruption and official misconduct that happened within the last 4 years than misguided rental policies from more than 40 years ago.
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RE: Hillary's 47% Moment
September 14, 2016 at 2:48 pm
RobertE Wrote:Mister Agenda Wrote:She said half of Trump supporters are racist, homophobic, etc....
About 60% of them believe the president is secretly a Muslim, born in Kenya, or both. 20% of them are doubtful that freeing the slaves was a good idea.
Of course there are racists who support Clinton. No one said otherwise. She doesn't seem to be pandering to them to get the racist vote, though.
I don't even know why you brought Obama up, since he is NOT 100% black. Muhammed Ali was black, Marcus Garvey was black, Robert Mugabe is black, Obama is a Heinz 57 who gets his humour from his Irish origins.
I wasn't aware that you can't be racist towards people of mixed race.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Hillary's 47% Moment
September 14, 2016 at 2:49 pm
(This post was last modified: September 14, 2016 at 2:50 pm by Mister Agenda.)
Then maybe you shouldn't have brought up whether Trump was accused of racism before he became a presidential candidate, if you're not concerned about what happened before that, Chad. You're now left without a point, but wiggling to find a way to save face.
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RE: Hillary's 47% Moment
September 15, 2016 at 6:21 pm
(September 14, 2016 at 2:10 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: I was being hyperbolic about the flippant way Democrats make accusations of racism not making any reference to litigation which is an oversight on my part.
Goalposts moved, hand-waving engaged...
(September 14, 2016 at 2:10 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: You are right. If you discourage welfare recipients from renting in a luxury apartment building and a minority group is disproportionately receiving welfare then fewer minority applicants would be accepted. In 1973 very few businesses took much into consideration disparate effects in their policies. That kind of awareness has taken time to develop and American society is to be commended, not reviled, for making steady gains in achieving civil equality. If you want to make the disparate effect of applying race-neutral standards 43 years ago, during a time of widespread limited awareness of disparate effects a disqualifying circumstance, then you have your standards. I am more concerned about current political corruption and official misconduct that happened within the last 4 years than misguided rental policies from more than 40 years ago.
Okay, now I'm pretty sure you didn't read any of the links, and you're desperately grasping at straws to dismiss any accusations of racism as a liberal smear campaign.
Firstly, they marked the applications with a "C." That's an odd choice if welfare was the concern. Secondly, the government sent in black people that were told nothing was available while the white people were sold a place afterwards. There was no mention of welfare. Thirdly, your post amounts to nothing more than "Hey, it was 1973. Everyone was racist." And let's not forget that he was investigated by the Nixon administration. How fucking racist do you have to be for that to happen?
Look, he looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, and you're sitting here trying to tell everyone that calling him a duck is just liberals being liberals. There's no nicer way to put this, but stop being dense.
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RE: Hillary's 47% Moment
September 15, 2016 at 6:35 pm
(September 14, 2016 at 10:39 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: ChadWooters Wrote:Well, if the New York Times said it it MUST be true! (sarcasm) And was there an actual indictment? You do realize that anyone who is successful makes themselves a target for litigation. 1973 !?!?! Really. That's what you're clinging to. C'mon.
Why are you bringing up indictments when your claim is that no one ever accused Trump of being a racist until he became a presidential candidate?
Never mind. I know why.
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RE: Hillary's 47% Moment
September 15, 2016 at 6:43 pm
Maybe if you put it inside a fucking bible Chad will read it?
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/do...sm-history
Quote:Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2016, explained
Trump regularly tells reporters that he’s "the least racist person that you’ve ever encountered." But his record tells another story.
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RE: Hillary's 47% Moment
September 15, 2016 at 7:41 pm
Ah, yes.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/paul-kru...bout-race/
Quote:Paul Krugman destroys the media myth that Trump voters have economic anxiety: It’s about race
Ultimately it is about race and Hillary was right.
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