Another "how could any intelligent woman be a Christian?" thread

[drfuzzy]

[CapnAwesome]

Well with Islam it's obvious, you will either face physical prosecution or all family support if you deconvert. (Before someone scream, 'not all Muslims' at me, yes not all Muslims just most of them.) With Christians it's most indoctrination. You are one because you always were one.

[Chad32]

Because they'll get ostracized or killed if they don't submit. It's not just about smarts. It's about brainwashing, and cultural pressure.

[J a c k]

Because there is no freedom of thought. I know this. It took me two years of not going to church and not living with family, to read the Bible for the third time, this time free to actually delve. When that happened, it was like I was reading everything in it for the first time, and I was grossed out. You see, I was brainwashed. That's difficult to undo. I'm one of the fortunate ones. I truly believe I'm a survivor.

[drfuzzy]

Because there is no freedom of thought. I know this. It took me two years of not going to church and not living with family, to read the Bible for the third time, this time free to actually delve. When that happened, it was like I was reading everything in it for the first time, and I was grossed out. You see, I was brainwashed. That's difficult to undo. I'm one of the fortunate ones. I truly believe I'm a survivor.

That's my story as well.  I was brainwashed, and afraid to question.  My Mother actually "wore the pants" in our family, but played the sweet obedient loving wife part to the hilt in public.  She would even brag to friends that when election time came around, "my husband tells me who to vote for".  Even as a proper church-going teen, that one made me gag.  Only when I realized that I couldn't believe, did these Bible passages start to sound as . . . repulsive as they are.

[John V]

An intelligent woman can be a Christian, as she reads the whole of scripture, rather than just cherry-picking as has been done here. Women can't have authority over a man in the church. That's not much of a restriction.

Read Proverbs 31, starting at verse 10, and particularly verse 16: "She considers a field and buys it; From her profits she plants a vineyard." So, Biblically, a wife has control of money, owns real estate, and operates businesses. Reading the passage, the real question is what doesn't a woman do? Oh yeah, she can't be pastor of a church - something very few people want to be anyway.

[drfuzzy]

An intelligent woman can be a Christian, as she reads the whole of scripture, rather than just cherry-picking as has been done here. Women can't have authority over a man in the church. That's not much of a restriction.

Read Proverbs 31, starting at verse 10, and particularly verse 16: "She considers a field and buys it; From her profits she plants a vineyard." So, Biblically, a wife has control of money, owns real estate, and operates businesses. Reading the passage, the real question is what doesn't a woman do? Oh yeah, she can't be pastor of a church - something very few people want to be anyway.

You would not agree with the bolded line if the situation was reversed.  "Men have to stay silent in the church.  They can hold no authority." 
There are a lot of women who want to be pastors and deacons, and I know many who are absolutely excellent pastors.

[John V]

You would not agree with the bolded line if the situation was reversed.  "Men have to stay silent in the church.  They can hold no authority." 
There are a lot of women who want to be pastors and deacons, and I know many who are absolutely excellent pastors.

If there's a lot of women who want to be pastors and deacons, you're admitting that a lot of women find Christianity attractive. And if you know many who are excellent pastors...what's the problem? Tell the ones who want to be pastors and deacons about the denominations with the female pastors.

[dyresand]

The letter of the day is I for indoctrination.
Indoctrination is a way to brainwash people into believe religion which is
horse shit because it's true. For a woman to want to be a christian yeah it bothers me too
it bothers me that why would any woman or any black person, irish etc too would want to be a christian.
That religion has been used for terrible things and to call it good is such a laugh in the face of our values.
Granted everyone has a right to worship what ever the fuck they want and follow what ever religion
but yeah.. why would they want to be christians since that book is as bad as the koran and the OT.

[dyresand]

You would not agree with the bolded line if the situation was reversed.  "Men have to stay silent in the church.  They can hold no authority." 
There are a lot of women who want to be pastors and deacons, and I know many who are absolutely excellent pastors.

If there's a lot of women who want to be pastors and deacons, you're admitting that a lot of women find Christianity attractive. And if you know many who are excellent pastors...what's the problem? Tell the ones who want to be pastors and deacons about the denominations with the female pastors.

By your own book women are just objects they are not treated as human beings but merely objects to do the will of the man.
Even so by your own bible and god a woman is not permitted to hold any power over a man and is not allowed to be a priest or even a pastor at that. 
Not me saying this but yeah your own book.