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RE: Should a woman be treated differently if...
September 15, 2016 at 5:42 am
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(September 15, 2016 at 5:01 am)Arkilogue Wrote: (September 15, 2016 at 3:58 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Different ≠ inferior. I treat women different than men every day, and usually nicer. They've earnt it.
How have women in general earned being treated different from men in your paradigm?
In my experience, they're more understanding and less combative. You can see an example of the latter in your own reply to me.
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RE: Should a woman be treated differently if...
September 15, 2016 at 7:05 am
(September 15, 2016 at 5:33 am)paulpablo Wrote: (September 15, 2016 at 5:13 am)Mr Greene Wrote: Catholic_Lady has it, the situation; on the street/ in the mall/ in the field/ in the woods/ on the beach/ by the lake, etc. I leave to your imagination, so long as it is consistent.
What I have noticed is that there seems to be a correlation between theistic views and whether it is acceptable to pass comment, harass, attack, rape, throw acid at, or even murder based on what that person considers "acceptable clothing".
All the way from "I wouldn't let my daughter go out like that" to 'honour killings'.
This still leaves more questions.
How old are the women, what are they doing, what is the general body language and facial expression of the naked woman? What is the weather like? Who are the local population? All other factors are to be considered consistent.
My stepdaughter has concerns relating to anorexia, as such it is important to make her feel good about how she looks.
Recently a male acquaintance friended her on Facebook and asked her out. She turned him down and he responded with a negative comment and unfriending her.
Should his actions be considered her fault?
As for inability to expand on the OP prior to now, my time has been rather bitty of late.
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RE: Should a woman be treated differently if...
September 15, 2016 at 8:37 am
(September 15, 2016 at 7:05 am)Mr Greene Wrote: (September 15, 2016 at 5:33 am)paulpablo Wrote: This still leaves more questions.
How old are the women, what are they doing, what is the general body language and facial expression of the naked woman? What is the weather like? Who are the local population? All other factors are to be considered consistent.
My stepdaughter has concerns relating to anorexia, as such it is important to make her feel good about how she looks.
Recently a male acquaintance friended her on Facebook and asked her out. She turned him down and he responded with a negative comment and unfriending her.
Should his actions be considered her fault?
As for inability to expand on the OP prior to now, my time has been rather bitty of late.
Is the question about your daughter related to the burka/naked question?
The answer to the question involving your daughter is no.
The answer id still give to the main question of the thread is yes.
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RE: Should a woman be treated differently if...
September 15, 2016 at 9:20 am
Anyone who said no, just look in your closet. You have more than one set of clothes, and I'm not just talking about needs for different weather. You have multiple sets of clothes because people treat you differently depending on what you're wearing and the context of the situation. We treat people differently depending on their appearance (not just clothes). It's not a theist thing, or a conservative thing. It's a human thing.
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RE: Should a woman be treated differently if...
September 15, 2016 at 9:25 am
(September 15, 2016 at 7:05 am)Mr Greene Wrote: (September 15, 2016 at 5:33 am)paulpablo Wrote: This still leaves more questions.
How old are the women, what are they doing, what is the general body language and facial expression of the naked woman? What is the weather like? Who are the local population? All other factors are to be considered consistent.
My stepdaughter has concerns relating to anorexia, as such it is important to make her feel good about how she looks.
Recently a male acquaintance friended her on Facebook and asked her out. She turned him down and he responded with a negative comment and unfriending her.
Should his actions be considered her fault?
As for inability to expand on the OP prior to now, my time has been rather bitty of late.
Wut. How is that even relevant to the thread? The answer to your question is obviously no.
No one's actions are considered someone else's fault.
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RE: Should a woman be treated differently if...
September 15, 2016 at 10:19 am
(September 15, 2016 at 2:10 am)Minimalist Wrote: (September 14, 2016 at 9:29 am)PETE_ROSE Wrote: Actually this is how my wife decided how her and I would resolve heated discussions. When the conversation gets heated or unpleasant she starts undressing. It is actually quite difficult to converse with someone that is naked, at least for me.
It has been an effective method of conflict resolution between us.
I assume she wins all the arguments?
You are wise beyond your years. I rarely win anything nowadays. It's better to admit defeat early and just say yes. I think she has me trained.
She graciously allows the perception of me having a modicum of authority to exist out in public. But behind closed closed doors it is a different story. It's been the best thing to happen between us. We rarely disagree, and now when we do it lasts just long enough for her to disrobe. Problem solved. New car? Yes ma'am. New house? Yes ma'am. Thanksgiving with the in-laws? Heck no! I mean, ok I will tell my parents tentatively next year.
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RE: Should a woman be treated differently if...
September 15, 2016 at 12:12 pm
I think people are continuing to take the OP's question way too technically.
As he has already confirmed, he was asking the question in the context of having more/less respect for a woman as a human being depending on how much skin she is showing. That's it lol.
Everything else... such as arresting a person who is nude when it is illegal/inappropriate to be so (or asking them to leave), or declining to hire someone who shows up for a job interview dressed in a dirty/smelly t-shirt with profanity, or having sex with your spouse if you come home from work and they are waiting for you on your bed naked, or speaking to someone differently when they are in policemen uniform... is pretty obvious and carries with it no distinction between being male or female. This is not the context the OP was asking the question in, folks.
We are arguing over technicalities and semantics when every single one of us probably agree on all this.
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RE: Should a woman be treated differently if...
September 15, 2016 at 12:20 pm
(September 15, 2016 at 12:19 am)Arkilogue Wrote: (September 14, 2016 at 11:50 pm)Cecelia Wrote: I don't think so. A good friend of mine is a nudist. It's part of her sincerely held religious beliefs. I would no more ask her to put clothes on than I would ask a Muslim woman to remove her Burka at my house. I wouldn't treat anyone differently solely because of what they were wearing (or not wearing, as the case may be)
You wouldn't put a sheet or a towel over your couch/chair when she comes over to sit on them? 
Good point. Snails' trails or even just clam kisses aren't really good for hygiene or for furniture. Some kind of genital/anal cover really is appreciated.
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RE: Should a woman be treated differently if...
September 15, 2016 at 12:27 pm
(September 15, 2016 at 10:19 am)PETE_ROSE Wrote: (September 15, 2016 at 2:10 am)Minimalist Wrote: I assume she wins all the arguments?
You are wise beyond your years. I rarely win anything nowadays. It's better to admit defeat early and just say yes. I think she has me trained.
She graciously allows the perception of me having a modicum of authority to exist out in public. But behind closed closed doors it is a different story. It's been the best thing to happen between us. We rarely disagree, and now when we do it lasts just long enough for her to disrobe. Problem solved. New car? Yes ma'am. New house? Yes ma'am. Thanksgiving with the in-laws? Heck no! I mean, ok I will tell my parents tentatively next year. I assume you start all the arguments [emoji1]
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RE: Should a woman be treated differently if...
September 15, 2016 at 1:47 pm
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(September 15, 2016 at 10:19 am)PETE_ROSE Wrote: You are wise beyond your years.
Hey, hey, HEY, this is Min we're talking about here. No doubt a smart sonofabitch, but do you know just how old this guy is?
There ain't that much wisdom laying around, man.
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