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RE: Victim Blaming?
October 4, 2016 at 10:42 am
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I don't know about you, but I have found having children to be very sobering. Before, I never worried about anything. Now I constantly worry about EVERYTHING! I basically operate under the assumption that any unfamiliar person with a penis who so much as breathes hot air in my son's general direction is a child molester, lol. Whereas I see any person, male or female, as a potential victim for my children, lol. I do worry though, about all sorts of stuff. It;s definitely sobering, which probably explains all that whiskey I drink to counter their effect. 
I'm the old man in the shoe over here, I'm not at the end of my rope, there's no rope..these little fuckers gnawed it away in it's entirety. I'm just suspended in thin air, midway between raggedness and babbling inanity, wondering why I'm not falling down.
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RE: Victim Blaming?
October 4, 2016 at 12:30 pm
I'm ambivalent. I want to drink irresponsibly without fear of being taken advantage of.
Nah, j/k.
Personal responsibility shouldn't have to stand at odds with blaming a victim for their behavior (or lack thereof). However I think even when someone is passed out drunk, that doesn't, like said in OP, remotely excuse being taken advantage of, regardless of personal responsibility, because what if the drunk is an alcoholic and more or less can't help themselves because of compulsion, or their beverage is spiked or whatever?
There can well be, in my mind, extraneous circumstances to excuse someone for their lack of personal responsibility and being passed out drunk, but there can NEVER be extraneous circumstances blaming someone for being a victim.
My opinion isn't exactly set in stone though. Depends on what the situation is, really.
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RE: Victim Blaming?
October 4, 2016 at 4:19 pm
(October 4, 2016 at 12:30 pm)Sal Wrote: I'm ambivalent. I want to drink irresponsibly without fear of being taken advantage of.
Nah, j/k.
Personal responsibility shouldn't have to stand at odds with blaming a victim for their behavior (or lack thereof). However I think even when someone is passed out drunk, that doesn't, like said in OP, remotely excuse being taken advantage of, regardless of personal responsibility, because what if the drunk is an alcoholic and more or less can't help themselves because of compulsion, or their beverage is spiked or whatever?
There can well be, in my mind, extraneous circumstances to excuse someone for their lack of personal responsibility and being passed out drunk, but there can NEVER be extraneous circumstances blaming someone for being a victim.
My opinion isn't exactly set in stone though. Depends on what the situation is, really.
It's two separate issues. First, if individuals don't use common sense they can put themselves in dangerous situations. Secondly, nobody should be excused from assaulting or otherwise taking advantage of someone, regardless of the condition or state of mind of the other person. The ultimate solution is convincing all people not to assault others, but in the meantime we should use common sense to mitigate the situation and to protect ourselves. It's common sense.
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