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RE: You can't make this shit up....
September 29, 2016 at 4:52 pm
I haven't read her original statement. Maybe I have overread it. First, the use of Zionist can mean a lot of things. Most often it's used in an entirely false sense. Not in the sense that Herzel intended when he founded the movement. Not in the sense the first settlers, before Israel was even founded, understood themselves, which wasn't totally in accordance with what Herzel intended also. It's a term that's violated by both sides of the spectrum these days.
Secondly, since I didn't find her original statement, I don't know what she intended when she used that term. There's always the outcry of antisemitism when someone dares to criticise Israeli politics. Criticising Israel amounts to antisemitism and it's often used to shut up people criticising the Netanjahu administration. Which doesn't even amount to criticising Israel, since this administration is also an abomination in the eyes of many liberal Israelis.
If someone has the original statement, I would like to see it, since, so far, I only saw reactions to it.
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RE: You can't make this shit up....
September 29, 2016 at 5:03 pm
(September 29, 2016 at 4:52 pm)abaris Wrote: I haven't read her original statement. Maybe I have overread it. First, the use of Zionist can mean a lot of things. Most often it's used in an entirely false sense. Not in the sense that Herzel intended when he founded the movement. Not in the sense the first settlers, before Israel was even founded, understood themselves, which wasn't totally in accordance with what Herzel intended also. It's a term that's violated by both sides of the spectrum these days.
Secondly, since I didn't find her original statement, I don't know what she intended when she used that term. There's always the outcry of antisemitism when someone dares to criticise Israeli politics. Criticising Israel amounts to antisemitism and it's often used to shut up people criticising the Netanjahu administration. Which doesn't even amount to criticising Israel, since this administration is also an abomination in the eyes of many liberal Israelis.
If someone has the original statement, I would like to see it, since, so far, I only saw reactions to it.
I have been to quite a few pages hosted by Algerians (who write in either Arabic or French or both) and a very large majority are against the Jewish, the Jewish state of Israel and everything it represents. All Sunnites support Palestine to the hilt and any hint of an attack from Hamas, and the Algerians will always blame Israel. Don't forget, Morocco and Algeria have had previous history of kicking out the Jews from their respective countries when they had every right to live there. I mean, the to turn the synagogues into Mosques just stinks. Imagine the uproar if the Christians in the UK decided that they want to kick out the muslims and turn the mosques into churches. Same thing, different religions.
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RE: You can't make this shit up....
September 29, 2016 at 5:06 pm
I want to see her statement, not what you saw on some websites of other people saying stuff.
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RE: You can't make this shit up....
September 30, 2016 at 6:10 am
(September 20, 2016 at 1:44 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: It won't be long until we are teaching white kids to apologise for their heritage.
The British empire has a lot of apologise for.
Luckily the British empire doesn't exist any more, except in the imagination of the political establishment who can now only subjugate their own electorate.
But I didn't invade 23.84% world's land so I'm not going to apologise. In the same way that I don't apologise for my Nazi ancestors.
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RE: You can't make this shit up....
October 1, 2016 at 12:27 pm
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(September 29, 2016 at 5:06 pm)abaris Wrote: I want to see her statement, not what you saw on some websites of other people saying stuff.
Just as you tell others to do, look it for your fucking self. Am I doing this right?
Furthermore, even with many different sites saying it, you still want proof yet at the same time, I am sure you have posted links to criticise Christianity to the fullest, which makes you a liberal dick. You defend Islam and anti-semites, yet you criticise Christianity. You cannot be taken seriously I'm afraid and if you don't ever reply to any of my posts ever again, it will be too soon. If I don't like Islam, it is my choice, just as I don't like Christianity or Judaism either. At least I am honest about my dislike for all three, whereas you are just a typical liberal sjw or screams Islamophobia, when someone dare criticises Islam.Deal with it.
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RE: You can't make this shit up....
October 1, 2016 at 12:33 pm
(October 1, 2016 at 12:27 pm)RobertE Wrote: Just as you tell others to do, look it for your fucking self. Am I doing this right?
I have no problem with that. So far I didn't find it. And so far I'm reserving judgment. All I was saying, I'm not the least bit interested in what you claim to have found on other boards. Since it's not her statement.
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RE: You can't make this shit up....
October 1, 2016 at 12:34 pm
(September 30, 2016 at 6:10 am)Mathilda Wrote: (September 20, 2016 at 1:44 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: It won't be long until we are teaching white kids to apologise for their heritage.
The British empire has a lot of apologise for.
Luckily the British empire doesn't exist any more, except in the imagination of the political establishment who can now only subjugate their own electorate.
But I didn't invade 23.84% world's land so I'm not going to apologise. In the same way that I don't apologise for my Nazi ancestors.
No, we don't have anything to apologise for, otherwise the apologies will never end. Should the Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Brits, the arabs, Greeks or Romans need to apologise for slavery? Do the Americans need to apologise for using napalm on innocent people? Does Obama need to apologies for keeping Guantanamo open for terrorists and their acts of force feeding even when he knew it was Ramadan?
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