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Fucking NRA
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(September 30, 2016 at 7:15 am)mcolafson Wrote: did you mean this one?

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i like it. very dramatic.

Yeah. I nearly died laughing.
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#12
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You would think the NRA would have some sort of secret divisions that has the sole responsibility of keeping a Democrat in office.  I think it's pretty obvious that when a Dem is in office.. the sales of guns are through the roof.  This is especially true after a mass shooting and the Democrat president goes on national TV to condemn the act.  At that point every NRA member runs out and burns the next couple months rent money because the Pres is going to take guns off the market. 

Hillary would give the NRA four great years to increase gun ownership. 
 
Trump would be pretty ho-hum for sales.

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#13
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(September 30, 2016 at 12:54 am)Maelstrom Wrote: In what way did it resemble a shampoo commercial?

Poor attempt at brain wash?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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(September 30, 2016 at 7:23 am)Kosh Wrote: You would think the NRA would have some sort of secret divisions that has the sole responsibility of keeping a Democrat in office.  I think it's pretty obvious that when a Dem is in office.. the sales of guns are through the roof.  This is especially true after a mass shooting and the Democrat president goes on national TV to condemn the act.  At that point every NRA member runs out and burns the next couple months rent money because the Pres is going to take guns off the market. 

Hillary would give the NRA four great years to increase gun ownership. 
 
Trump would be pretty ho-hum for sales.

Obama's been the best thing that's ever happened to manufacturers and retailers of .22lr and 5.56....and firearms in those chamberings, particularly the AR15. They can't keep up with demand and distribution (opting to weight for 56 over 22 in most cases because there's a greater profit per unit), and the product retails for four times what it did eight years ago -on a good day-. Great for small gun-business too. Namely hand loads and reforging brass (due, again, to the strain put on manufacturers, distributors, and retailers to keep up with demand of a particular product to the exclusion of others).
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The NRA survives by selling FUD, Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. They created the gun neurosis we live with to save their jobs.

BTW,  I' m an owner and shooter, since 1965.
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#16
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It's crazy to see how the NRA has transformed over the last 30 or so years. It used to be a group that mostly advocated for hunting rights and firearm education/training. Now all it does is spread misinformation and stupidity because that's what their members want to hear. And they have such a tight grip on Republican lawmakers' balls that the shit they want actually gets done.
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#17
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30 years ago they were in the business of sport.  Today they're in the business of political power-broking.  It;s not all that surprising.  Once guns became a wedge it became an inevitability.
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#18
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(September 30, 2016 at 7:23 am)Kosh Wrote: You would think the NRA would have some sort of secret divisions that has the sole responsibility of keeping a Democrat in office.  I think it's pretty obvious that when a Dem is in office.. the sales of guns are through the roof.  This is especially true after a mass shooting and the Democrat president goes on national TV to condemn the act.  At that point every NRA member runs out and burns the next couple months rent money because the Pres is going to take guns off the market. 

Hillary would give the NRA four great years to increase gun ownership. 
 
Trump would be pretty ho-hum for sales.

Thanks for the heads up. Initiating spending spree now.
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(September 30, 2016 at 12:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Today they're in the business of political power-broking.

Most of all they're in the pocket of large gun manufacturers. And their business model is to sell fear. Reminds me a bit of Steven King's Needful Things where Gaunt is saying: "and in the end I'd always offer weapons. And they'd always take them. Of course I was gone before they realized what they'd purchased."
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#20
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That's what people think, but it's more accurate to say that they are the pocket that others are in.  Manufacturers give them money because they feel that what the NRA has is more valuable than the money they;re willing to give for it. It;s a sober and factual assessment on their part - regardless of what lunacy the NRA spouts in the course of the operation of their model.

Manufacturers make a product that people want. Advertisers push a message that people want to hear. A -manufacturers- busines model is -always- the same. Produce a marketable product at a price point that allows for an acceptable roi. Fear has nothing to do with that. Now I can;t personally vouch for why every person who buys a gun buys one..but I've never bought one for fear...and I know a hell of alot of people who prefer a different kind of ad copy (like tech specs and range trials that blow the competition out of the water). The NRA doesn't want you to buy a gun, they're not even honestly -in- the gun business. To them, it's a useful pretext, as I said, a wedge. They want to scare you into voting for their list of approved candidates and legislation. More than anything else, they want this to be profitable in both economic and political terms -for themselves-. The manufacturers are a client to be squeezed of pennies, same as the rest of us. Did anyone see a commercial for a gun, in the OP video? Nope. That's not the product they're peddling.

Maybe, jjust maybe, if some saner group or person would advocate for the necessities of the manufacturers businesses, they'd put themselves in that groups pocket...but so long as the people chiefly motivated towards this sort of legislation can take themselves no further than "guns bad, manufacturers evil"....that;s never going to happen. Our national idiocy regarding gun control has -handed- the NRA those keys. We flatly -refuse- to discuss our actual gun problem, the proxy problems we invent for purposes of stumping are...from the bottom to the top, ludicrous claims and flat out bold faced lies......and it's better for everyone principally involved if it remains this way. It serves the purposes of government, it serves the purposes of the nra. A data based assessment of the gun problem we have would expose both parties for what they are, and what they've been doing. In this case, even ideological enemies have agreed to maintain the silence on that issue, between them, for glaringly obvious reasons.

Fear, in any case, is the tool that both sides of this political divide apparently see best suited to compelling people to vote, yay or nay, for any given specific. One side tells you big bad giovernment wants to steal your guns. The other that your kids are going to be shot any moment now because of evil corporations. Neither claim is remotely true.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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