Karma poll

[brewer]

Karma Poll? How about Destiny Kowalski. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fydguquSIWg

[emjay]

I don't believe in karma in any sense, in this life only or as a supernatural thing spanning many lifetimes. It's not a 'thing' to believe in in my view, but I do think it is an appropriate term and one I'll happily use to describe general ideas about cause and effect such as 'what goes around comes around', 'live by the sword, die by the sword', 'pay it forward' etc... anything where a bad mindset/choice has a recognizable causal connection with a bad result and vice versa for good mindsets/choices. So if I choose to smoke (bad choice) and then later get cancer (bad result) I have no problem using the word karma in that situation, but it's not a supernatural usage, just cause and effect, in this life. And it can be applied in the past tense, in the sense of saying this shit was caused [by that shit] but it can also be applied in the moving forward sense that generally positive/good decisions lead to good futures and negative/bad decisions lead to bad futures, even if it's only in your own perception... but perception is still part of cause and effect... so if you create a good future mindset from a good present mindset, that too is karma to me.

[Simon Moon]

The very fact that I have to read Rik's ridiculous posts, must be proof of Karma.


I must be getting payback for some wrong I did in the past.

[Cyberman]

Nobody could have been that evil.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Nobody could have been that evil.

Good point. Even buggering kittens while wearing a Nazi uniform doesn't merit THAT kind of punishment.

Boru

[Little Rik]

There's an area near where I live, the name of which is spelled Caldmore but pronounced karma. So in that sense, I too have to believe in its existence.

Gee, I would have never thought that you would start believing in karma.  

I am all shocked.      

[Little Rik]

How about...

... perhaps there is no natural justice?

Instinct into lower form of life lead to higher consciousness.
Higher consciousness lead to human life and more so a goal is there and where there is a goal there is a system that works including justice.
You never thought about that Stim, did you?  

[Little Rik]

I don't even see how the fuck that'd work.

What if Hitler was a really great guy in his previous lives?  Does he get off the hook for killing 6 million people?  Or were those 6 million people all bad people in their previous life?  How can you really punish someone for doing something they don't remember doing?  Seems to me like punishment for punishments sake, and not justice at all.  Punishment should teach a lesson, and mystical karma would not be teaching anyone a lesson at all.

Totally wrong Divinity.  

The mind only remember this life for a good reason that I will tell you in a minute.
Put in this way.
Our mind is not only made from what we can perceive in this life.
Our mind is composed of conscious mind and unconscious mind.
Like an iceberg we can only see the part above the water so people ignore the part below (unconscious mind).
For them it doesn't exist but is there for sure.
This unconscious mind is the great bulk of our mind and it is this unconscious mind that record everything.
Until we sort out our problems the record of past action stay in the unconscious mind for a good reason.

If we could remember our past actions it would be hell.
Absolute hell that is why we do not remember.
It is hard enough to remember our previous years in this life with all our mistakes.
To remember even past lives it would be unbearable.

By not remembering is a lot easier to go ahead and make progress and when the bad karma knock the door we have more mental strength to sort out the problems.
If however the bad karma demand our physical death we should remember that life goes on because is not us that die but the shell in which we are stuck to.  

[Little Rik]

Wrong mate.  

Buddha had a lot of intuition.
He knew that if he would preach God to ignorant masses his message would never be understood
so he opt for something different in order to get to the point anyway.
He taught yoga to these people.
Yoga is all about reducing the distance that separate us from God.
Buddha was a master of yoga.
He just used the best tactic available to him in order to reach the best result.
The first stages of yoga do not require an immediate believe in God but as soon as you advance in the practice you are bound to understand that a mighty force is waiting for you.

Most Buddhists have lost the understanding of what Buddha was teaching that is why Buddha deep spirituality was transformed into the religion that we got these days.
In other words Buddha original teaching have absolutely nothing to do with atheism.  

And all this bullshit about what Buddha originally taught, as opposed to what he knew, is pulled straight from your ass.

You have no way of knowing any of this shit.  You just made it up out of thin air.  It's just another of your fanciful "just so" stories.

In science and philosophy, a just-so story, also called an ad hoc fallacy, is an unverifiable and unfalsifiable narrative explanation for a cultural practice, a biological trait, or behavior of humans or other animals. The pejorative nature of the expression is an implicit criticism that reminds the hearer of the essentially fictional and unprovable nature of such an explanation. Such tales are common in folklore and mythology (where they are known as etiological myths—see etiology).

Wrong again yog.  

By practicing yoga Buddha only follow the way to union with God.
Yoga does not lead elsewhere so by knowing where yoga lead to I also know what Buddha was doing, thinking and saying.

You never thought about it yog, did you?  

[FatAndFaithless]

Still waiting to hear how Rik knows that Buddha believed in God.

A clear, concise answer would be nice. Call me optimistic.