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RE: Virtual reality girlfriend
October 17, 2016 at 4:27 pm
(October 17, 2016 at 12:37 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: (October 17, 2016 at 11:33 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Also, I've noticed some people here use the philosophy of "if it makes you happy, then go for it" for any action/lifestyle under the sun that isn't directly harming another.
...Yet take a much more critical/judgmental approach when it comes to people taking joy in their faith.
Why does the logic of "if it makes you happy, go for it" get tossed out the window when it comes to theists who's faith brings them happiness? Who are happy when they go to church, pray, sing together, believe, etc?
Some food for thought.
Live and let live =/= ban on criticism and critique.
If you air your ideas about your beliefs in the real world, expect people to talk back. The fact there is even a discussion about the subject of virtual girlfriend's online (if they do harm anyone it could be argued it is only be the person indulging in it, which can't often be said of religious faith) is surely testament to that, no?
This. I might be completely mistaken, but I also get the feeling she's referring to me (based on some of the wording).
Just in case, I have no problem with people (including CL) believing in anything that makes them happy. That's never been my issue with her specifically.
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RE: Virtual reality girlfriend
October 17, 2016 at 4:34 pm
Why did you ignore the rest of the statement I made, CL?
Go ahead and believe. But follow those rules.
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RE: Virtual reality girlfriend
October 17, 2016 at 4:34 pm
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2016 at 4:36 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
It's easier, for some, to accuse someone directly or indirectly of imagined hypocrisy or inconsistency (or just about any other bit of shit one wants to sling) than it is to own up to the reality of religious asshattery, or the legitimacy of criticism applied to the same.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Virtual reality girlfriend
October 17, 2016 at 4:39 pm
(October 17, 2016 at 4:34 pm)Macoleco Wrote: Why did you ignore the rest of the statement I made, CL?
Go ahead and believe. But follow those rules.
You mean the ones where you listed your "rules?"
Some I agree with, some I don't. Don't think it's productive to get into a discussion of what you consider ok and not ok for me to do.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Virtual reality girlfriend
October 17, 2016 at 4:43 pm
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2016 at 4:44 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(October 17, 2016 at 4:27 pm)Irrational Wrote: (October 17, 2016 at 12:37 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: Live and let live =/= ban on criticism and critique.
If you air your ideas about your beliefs in the real world, expect people to talk back. The fact there is even a discussion about the subject of virtual girlfriend's online (if they do harm anyone it could be argued it is only be the person indulging in it, which can't often be said of religious faith) is surely testament to that, no?
This. I might be completely mistaken, but I also get the feeling she's referring to me (based on some of the wording).
Just in case, I have no problem with people (including CL) believing in anything that makes them happy. That's never been my issue with her specifically.
Not referring to anyone in particular, as I honestly can't remember who it was that said what in this thread. Just something I've noticed throughout the forum in general and is not specific to this thread. Though as I said, does not apply to everyone, but it is something I have seen.
I'm glad you don't have a problem with people being religious.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Virtual reality girlfriend
October 17, 2016 at 4:46 pm
(October 17, 2016 at 4:34 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It's easier, for some, to accuse someone directly or indirectly of imagined hypocrisy or inconsistency (or just about any other bit of shit one wants to sling) than it is to own up to the reality of religious asshattery, or the legitimacy of criticism applied to the same.
I've never shied away from the reality of what some religious nutbags do. I call it for what it is as well as you. I only ask that not everyone who calls them self a believer or religious person not by default have their views assumed because of the beliefs/actions of the fringe. Do you also believe all people who identify as Muslim are terrorists and view everyone in America as infidels? My entire point is you were taking the actions/views of some and applying the entire connotation to anyone who self describes as "religious".
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RE: Virtual reality girlfriend
October 17, 2016 at 4:47 pm
You keep talking as if someones done that. Why?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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