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What do i do im surrounded by christians and they want to change me?
#11
RE: What do i do im surrounded by christians and they want to change me?
Ozzy Osborne, head phones.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#12
RE: What do i do im surrounded by christians and they want to change me?
(October 17, 2016 at 5:31 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Ozzy Osborne, head phones.

"I spoke to God this morning and he don't like you." Big Grin
“What screws us up the most in life is the picture in our head of what it's supposed to be.”

Also if your signature makes my scrolling mess up "you're tacky and I hate you."
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#13
RE: What do i do im surrounded by christians and they want to change me?
I need some lessons from Minimalist... how to convert my walls of text into a few lines Big Grin At the moment I may as well just call myself Maximalist Wink
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#14
RE: What do i do im surrounded by christians and they want to change me?
Getting acceptance from your family can be difficult. It also depends on how much you lean on them.

My dad has become increasingly religious as the years have gone by; but he gave up a long time ago trying to convert me, when he realized I could just cut him out of my life if that day was ever necessary.
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RE: What do i do im surrounded by christians and they want to change me?
(October 17, 2016 at 1:30 pm)Asyrel Wrote: So my whole family is christian i used to be, but going through highschool learning about physics and biology it made me stray away from the bible since it made no sense, but to put it simply I'm 22 now, i still live with my mom and my sister with her boyfriend while im studying graphic design.

They recently joined a new church and i promised my mom that i would come once just to make her happy because i know it wont affect me in any way. So i went, at the end though some of them came up to me to ask if i would come back. I replied "probably not, I'm an atheist". So then after that they tried to debate me on the existence of god obviously they had no proof and they just mocked evolution  and the big bang.

At the end though this is what really pissed me off they said "give it three months you will be reborn and sitting in this church willingly". What do i do in this situation im surrounded by people that think they will change me i cant reason with them because they are just mentally incompetent to think rationally.

Tell them to remove the beam in their own eye before complaining about the mote in your eye.
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#16
RE: What do i do im surrounded by christians and they want to change me?
(October 17, 2016 at 1:30 pm)Asyrel Wrote: So my whole family is christian i used to be, but going through highschool learning about physics and biology it made me stray away from the bible since it made no sense, but to put it simply I'm 22 now, i still live with my mom and my sister with her boyfriend while im studying graphic design.

They recently joined a new church and i promised my mom that i would come once just to make her happy because i know it wont affect me in any way. So i went, at the end though some of them came up to me to ask if i would come back. I replied "probably not, I'm an atheist". So then after that they tried to debate me on the existence of god obviously they had no proof and they just mocked evolution  and the big bang.

At the end though this is what really pissed me off they said "give it three months you will be reborn and sitting in this church willingly". What do i do in this situation im surrounded by people that think they will change me i cant reason with them because they are just mentally incompetent to think rationally.

The best thing to do is, learn all the refutations to all their arguments. Which isn't tough. They probably have nothing.

Ask them all the difficult questions about their beliefs and the Bible. Slavery in Exodus 21, the slaughter of the Midianites in Numbers 31:7-18 is also good, especially the part where god tells the soldiers to keep the virgins as spoils of war, a similar story in Judges 21:10-24 are good places to start.

Some good resources are infidels.org and ironchariots.org to start.
Sooner or later, they'll leave you alone.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#17
RE: What do i do im surrounded by christians and they want to change me?
(October 17, 2016 at 2:06 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: You're 22 and you can't figure this one out for yourself?

He's young and frustrated and upset, and probably doesn't want to start a fight with his family, and you mock him?
I'm sorry, that's not cool.
I'm 40 and I still need advice on how to handle new situations. Everyone does.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?” 
― Tom StoppardRosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
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#18
RE: What do i do im surrounded by christians and they want to change me?
If it is your family and you don't want to become estranged, don't tell them to fuck off. On this you will probably have to learn to agree to disagree. You are allowed to make up your own mind.

Religiosity people often resort to "he's just going through a phase" or "they are angry at God, or searching for answers". They often cannot understand let alone accept your lack of belief. They think everyone, deep down, must believe.
It's something you are going to have to find your own way to deal with. It might be to move away and tell them all to eff off, or to do your best to ignore it, or to try and argue or reason with them every chance you get. There is no one right answer.

Best of luck to you. Don't let it get you too down!
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?” 
― Tom StoppardRosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
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#19
RE: What do i do im surrounded by christians and they want to change me?
Ignore. Get away from all of them if they can't accept you for you. Or just piss them off and try to change them every time you see them.They won't like walking in your shoes and may back the heck off.
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#20
RE: What do i do im surrounded by christians and they want to change me?
Clearly tell them what will or won't happen and proceed to show them that it's not up for discussion or debate, by simply refusing to engage past that point. 
It shuts the bullshit down quite effectively.

I've found that calmly/matter-of-factly asserting myself, with as few words as possible, works well with my family. I put on a blank stare, and absolutely refuse to allow myself to get sucked into their emotional arguments; Their angry tirades, desperate declarations, and turning on the waterworks won't affect my reaction in slightest. 

"No', and/or "I don't care" is all they'll get, because that's all they need to know.
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