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RE: Escape from hell before death
October 23, 2016 at 2:05 pm
Get the job, fake the religion and politics, make the money until you can buy your way out. If your principles won't allow that, your stuck.
I asked "how much money" originally. Still unanswered.
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RE: Escape from hell before death
October 23, 2016 at 3:41 pm
(October 23, 2016 at 2:05 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Get the job, fake the religion and politics, make the money until you can buy your way out. If your principles won't allow that, your stuck.
I asked "how much money" originally. Still unanswered.
You need minimum 13k USD. But it's not the principles or politics, it's the situation of the country that won't normalize today in order for me to be out as they always used to. Speaking about the amount alone isn't itself sufficient to get you out. I have to obtain a visa and this task is detrimental. I cannot obtain visa for a lot of reasons. I just don't know what to say.
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RE: Escape from hell before death
October 23, 2016 at 3:54 pm
(October 23, 2016 at 3:41 pm)Defender Wrote: (October 23, 2016 at 2:05 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Get the job, fake the religion and politics, make the money until you can buy your way out. If your principles won't allow that, your stuck.
I asked "how much money" originally. Still unanswered.
You need minimum 13k USD. But it's not the principles or politics, it's the situation of the country that won't normalize today in order for me to be out as they always used to. Speaking about the amount alone isn't itself sufficient to get you out. I have to obtain a visa and this task is detrimental. I cannot obtain visa for a lot of reasons. I just don't know what to say.
Does not sound like you are willing to put forth the effort to get out, as daunting a task as that may be. Who knows, in the same situation I may not be willing to put forth the effort.
Are there not others in your same/similar situation that get out?
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RE: Escape from hell before death
October 23, 2016 at 4:21 pm
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(October 23, 2016 at 3:54 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Does not sound like you are willing to put forth the effort to get out, as daunting a task as that may be. Who knows, in the same situation I may not be willing to put forth the effort.
I kept trying and I'm still trying by the way. I'm bidding on hopes more than reality in fact. I'm doing the impossible here to open at least one door to be out. I might head to New Zealand as I don't need to obtain visa for that country. Not so sure about that place though and I don't know if we have Kiwis here.
(October 23, 2016 at 3:54 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Are there not others in your same/similar situation that get out?
I could be the first one. It's a closed society, there's no such thing where people go out speaking against Islam in public. I tried looking for atheist or secular organization that help people in my situation, I found none. Not even secretly operated organization.
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RE: Escape from hell before death
October 23, 2016 at 5:26 pm
I think you deserve to be right where you are.
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RE: Escape from hell before death
October 23, 2016 at 7:39 pm
(October 23, 2016 at 4:21 pm)Defender Wrote: (October 23, 2016 at 3:54 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Are there not others in your same/similar situation that get out?
I could be the first one. It's a closed society, there's no such thing where people go out speaking against Islam in public. I tried looking for atheist or secular organization that help people in my situation, I found none. Not even secretly operated organization.
bold mine
Bullshit.
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RE: Escape from hell before death
October 24, 2016 at 2:35 am
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(October 23, 2016 at 5:26 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I think you deserve to be right where you are.
Everyone deserves this.
(October 23, 2016 at 7:39 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (October 23, 2016 at 4:21 pm)Defender Wrote: I could be the first one. It's a closed society, there's no such thing where people go out speaking against Islam in public. I tried looking for atheist or secular organization that help people in my situation, I found none. Not even secretly operated organization.
bold mine
Bullshit.
Because you're stupid! I said "I could" and you're fucked up when it comes to understanding English. What's bullshit here? The least thing I need now is someone like you throwing random words. Do you know what's the meaning of could here? Could = possibility. Change the sentence to: "I'm possibly the first one" and see the meaning behind it. WTF! You know nothing about me or where I live and you ask questions when you get the answer you say: "Bullshit." This is very disrespectful.
could
ko͝od,kəd/
verb
- past of can1.
- used to indicate possibility.
"they could be right"
- used in making polite requests.
"could I use the phone?"
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RE: Escape from hell before death
October 24, 2016 at 8:12 am
(October 24, 2016 at 2:35 am)Defender Wrote: (October 23, 2016 at 5:26 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I think you deserve to be right where you are.
Everyone deserves this.
(October 23, 2016 at 7:39 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: bold mine
Bullshit.
Because you're stupid! I said "I could" and you're fucked up when it comes to understanding English. What's bullshit here? The least thing I need now is someone like you throwing random words. Do you know what's the meaning of could here? Could = possibility. Change the sentence to: "I'm possibly the first one" and see the meaning behind it. WTF! You know nothing about me or where I live and you ask questions when you get the answer you say: "Bullshit." This is very disrespectful.
could
ko͝od,kəd/
verb
- past of can1.
- used to indicate possibility.
"they could be right"
- used in making polite requests.
"could I use the phone?"
Still Bullshit.
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