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Not every pedophile is a rapist.
October 23, 2016 at 9:29 pm
First of all, I want to make clear I am not a pedophile, nor I am an expert in the topic. I honestly do not know if it is considered a psychiatric or psychologic disorder, but I believe you are born that way, except maybe for some extreme cases of people who have been abused.
I just want to put my opinion out there, because I believe this is a taboo topic nobody ever discusses.
Society usually hates pedophiles, and wants to see them crushed and dead. This is one of the reasons I believe pedophiles dont seek for professional help or help from relatives. They are afraid of being judged.
This is why I believe that governments should invest in campaigns, informing to the general public what pedophilia is, and motivating pedophiles to seek for help.
Now, some of you may be thinking "Protecting kids is the main priority", and it is. If you help pedophiles control their disorder (since we cant cure it as of right now), chances are they will not abuse kids. Therefore, the kids will be safe too.
Have you ever wondered, how many people you have met through your life have been pedophiles? Maybe they are even married, with kids. I think we all have, we just dont know about it. Maybe even some of your friends.
What do you think? 
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RE: Not every pedophile is a rapist.
October 23, 2016 at 9:46 pm
I don't buy pedophilia being a legit "born this way" sexuality that people have no control over, if I'm honest. I just don't see how exclusive attraction to a certain age works, as though you'd be attracted to a teenager and then on their 18th birthday they're suddenly not attractive to you anymore. That makes no sense.
It's a fetish for having power in sex and for virgins/inexperienced sex at most, I don't consider it a fully fledged sexuality.
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RE: Not every pedophile is a rapist.
October 23, 2016 at 9:48 pm
The world will never accept paedophiles.
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RE: Not every pedophile is a rapist.
October 23, 2016 at 9:49 pm
Well, maybe in the backwards Middle East.
Not here.
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RE: Not every pedophile is a rapist.
October 23, 2016 at 9:52 pm
To add to that, having sex with anyone too young to give consent is indeed one form of rape, by definition.
A high school friend of mine was convicted of pedophilia about 15 years ago. I was shocked and sickened -- I had no idea he had that in him. The fact that he never showed that inclination -- at one time I rented a room from his parents, so we were basically roommates too -- the fact that I never saw any indication of it in his behavior makes me doubt that it was inherent in him.
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RE: Not every pedophile is a rapist.
October 23, 2016 at 10:06 pm
(October 23, 2016 at 9:46 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: I don't buy pedophilia being a legit "born this way" sexuality that people have no control over, if I'm honest. I just don't see how exclusive attraction to a certain age works, as though you'd be attracted to a teenager and then on their 18th birthday they're suddenly not attractive to you anymore. That makes no sense.
It's a fetish for having power in sex and for virgins/inexperienced sex at most, I don't consider it a fully fledged sexuality.
Well I disagree with you there. Because if you have noticed, the taste of everyone changes with age, too. For example, when you were 12 years old, you used to liked girls of the same age. Now you have grown up, and you like grown up girls. I dont think it is a fetish because a fetish involves will and decision. Feeling an uncontrolable desire for kids is different.
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RE: Not every pedophile is a rapist.
October 23, 2016 at 10:08 pm
It seems like in legal terminology, pedophile and child molester are the same thing, am I right?
In psychology, pedophile is not the same as someone who has molested a child, but rather that pedophilia itself is a primary sexual attraction towards prepubescent children, irrespective of the deeds committed.
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RE: Not every pedophile is a rapist.
October 23, 2016 at 10:12 pm
(October 23, 2016 at 10:08 pm)Irrational Wrote: It seems like in legal terminology, pedophile and child molester are the same thing, am I right?
In psychology, pedophile is not the same as someone who has molested a child, but rather that pedophilia itself is a primary sexual attraction towards prepubescent children, irrespective of the deeds committed.
That is what I mean.
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RE: Not every pedophile is a rapist.
October 23, 2016 at 10:36 pm
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"-phile" is supposed to mean one who has an affinity, sometimes including attraction, to something. Oenophile, Porscheophile, pedophile, etc. Pedophiles often rape children, but the "-philia" is the attraction, not the act that often results from the attraction.
I have no clue how it comes about. Maybe it's different in different cases? I dunno. Maybe some are born with it, but maybe others are subject to a developmental disorder that sets them back. Maybe they are a social recluse and don't have the normal dating opportunities in high school, so their age of attraction doesn't evolve?
I have no clue, but I am for the death penalty for actual rapists. In theory, a pedophile should get help before they attempt rape or anything else illegal or immoral. But how? It's unclear really what's at play mentally (I am not a doctor, LCSW, etc.).
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RE: Not every pedophile is a rapist.
October 23, 2016 at 10:38 pm
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(October 23, 2016 at 10:06 pm)Macoleco Wrote: (October 23, 2016 at 9:46 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: I don't buy pedophilia being a legit "born this way" sexuality that people have no control over, if I'm honest. I just don't see how exclusive attraction to a certain age works, as though you'd be attracted to a teenager and then on their 18th birthday they're suddenly not attractive to you anymore. That makes no sense.
It's a fetish for having power in sex and for virgins/inexperienced sex at most, I don't consider it a fully fledged sexuality.
Well I disagree with you there. Because if you have noticed, the taste of everyone changes with age, too. For example, when you were 12 years old, you used to liked girls of the same age. Now you have grown up, and you like grown up girls. I dont think it is a fetish because a fetish involves will and decision. Feeling an uncontrolable desire for kids is different.
Yes but a 12 year old being attracted to another 12/13 year old is not the same thing as a 40 year old being attracted to someone of that age.
People date within their respective age group because they have a lot of common ground with eachother, based on them being the same age. That floats throughout life. I was attracted to other teenagers when I was a teenager yes, and that was appropriate at the time because 15 year old me dating another 15 year old was not an un-even power dynamic.
But I'm older now and I don't personally relate to teenage life anymore, so I've lost my interest for teen boys and have developed an interest for men in their 20s, because that's my current age and it's what I currently relate to the most.
I think it does involve will and decision. Let's entertain the idea, you've got someone who for whatever reason is attracted to child-like features. Why don't they just find themselves an Ariana Grande or a Josh Hutcherson, a legal adult who happens to have young-looking features? There are plenty of adults like that out there these people can aim for, but instead it has to be a child? That's what I mean when I say it's a fetish. If an old adult (who doesn't emotionally/personally connect to teenagers at their age) not only sees it as a physical thing but actually wants a child partner, it's because they get off to the feeling of having sexual power over someone inexperienced with sex. That's a fetish, not a sexuality.
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