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RE: Is It Possible for Humanity to Create a Peaceful World with Religion in it?
October 31, 2016 at 10:30 am
(October 28, 2016 at 5:50 pm)abaris Wrote: (October 28, 2016 at 5:17 pm)Asmodee Wrote: Satanism has basically the same single rule, though they are atheists so they tend to be a bit confrontational like the rest of us.
Who's the rest of us?
And I highly doubt that Wiccans and (the atheist version of) Satanism have the same rules. Wiccans have a very complex set of rules fitting their believes.
Here it is, if you're interested.
http://www.controverscial.com/The%2013%2...Belief.htm
Others, non American wiccans have 9 rules. Most important of all, everything, the good and the evil, you do to another, reflects tenfold on you.
"The rest of us" is atheists. Satanists are atheists. Satan worshipers are not. They're also pretty much non existent.
The Wiccan Rede ends in "An it harm none, do what ye will." The Church of Satan has a similar rule, starting with "hurt no one" and ending with "do what you want to", to paraphrase. While both have other "rules" and "laws", this one rule is often associated with each belief above all others. Do no harm, but do what makes you happy. The witches "rule of three", as it was portrayed in a popular movie, is an extension of that basic tenant.
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RE: Is It Possible for Humanity to Create a Peaceful World with Religion in it?
November 1, 2016 at 3:38 pm
Is It Possible for Humanity to Create a Peaceful World?
No. Doesn't matter if it has religion or not. People will always want other people's stuff, and that causes conflict.
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RE: Is It Possible for Humanity to Create a Peaceful World with Religion in it?
November 1, 2016 at 4:43 pm
Janism is more than peaceful enough. Islam is not. Christianity is not. Even Buddhism isn't when people take Karma too literally.
There will almost be fundamentalists and when the fundamentals of a religion are dangerous there will never be peace.
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RE: Is It Possible for Humanity to Create a Peaceful World with Religion in it?
November 1, 2016 at 4:52 pm
My thoughts are that the abrahamic religions seem to think world peace is a sign of end times, and the antichrist. So it will be difficult convincing them that world peace is a good thing, except in the form of the world ending and Jesus coming soon, or whatever.
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RE: Is It Possible for Humanity to Create a Peaceful World with Religion in it?
November 1, 2016 at 4:56 pm
(November 1, 2016 at 4:52 pm)Chad32 Wrote: My thoughts are that the abrahamic religions seem to think world peace is a sign of end times, and the antichrist. So it will be difficult convincing them that world peace is a good thing, except in the form of the world ending and Jesus coming soon, or whatever.
First, there's only one abrahamic religion believing Jesus to make some kind of return. Secondly there's only a very small minority into end times porn. Mostly based in the USA which may distort your perspective if you're living there. Catholics, still the largest christian denomination, don't go looking for end times. Mainstream protestants don't either.
Same goes for muslims and jews by the way.
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RE: Is It Possible for Humanity to Create a Peaceful World with Religion in it?
November 1, 2016 at 5:48 pm
(November 1, 2016 at 4:56 pm)abaris Wrote: (November 1, 2016 at 4:52 pm)Chad32 Wrote: My thoughts are that the abrahamic religions seem to think world peace is a sign of end times, and the antichrist. So it will be difficult convincing them that world peace is a good thing, except in the form of the world ending and Jesus coming soon, or whatever.
First, there's only one abrahamic religion believing Jesus to make some kind of return. Secondly there's only a very small minority into end times porn. Mostly based in the USA which may distort your perspective if you're living there. Catholics, still the largest christian denomination, don't go looking for end times. Mainstream protestants don't either.
Same goes for muslims and jews by the way.
Okie dokie. I do live in the US, and have a grandmother that says we need to side with isreal to help Jesus come back, so I may have a skewed perspective.
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RE: Is It Possible for Humanity to Create a Peaceful World with Religion in it?
November 1, 2016 at 6:52 pm
(November 1, 2016 at 4:56 pm)abaris Wrote: (November 1, 2016 at 4:52 pm)Chad32 Wrote: My thoughts are that the abrahamic religions seem to think world peace is a sign of end times, and the antichrist. So it will be difficult convincing them that world peace is a good thing, except in the form of the world ending and Jesus coming soon, or whatever.
First, there's only one abrahamic religion believing Jesus to make some kind of return. Secondly there's only a very small minority into end times porn. Mostly based in the USA which may distort your perspective if you're living there. Catholics, still the largest christian denomination, don't go looking for end times. Mainstream protestants don't either.
Same goes for muslims and jews by the way.
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RE: Is It Possible for Humanity to Create a Peaceful World with Religion in it?
November 1, 2016 at 6:56 pm
The better question would simply be: "Is It Possible for Humanity to Create a Peaceful World?" If the answer to that isn't yes, it isn't really religion's fault. (And neither do I think it's the cure.)
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RE: Is It Possible for Humanity to Create a Peaceful World with Religion in it?
November 1, 2016 at 7:04 pm
(November 1, 2016 at 5:48 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Okie dokie. I do live in the US, and have a grandmother that says we need to side with isreal to help Jesus come back, so I may have a skewed perspective.
I know these people exist, but thankfully they're really a very small minority. Remember the prof?
The siding with Israel part isn't for love of jews either. It's for Jesus to return and commit a little bit of genocide amongst the ones who don't convert. Has to happen there and has to happen when the jews own all the land so they can be slaughtered by the proper authorities.
As I said, small madhatting portion.
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RE: Is It Possible for Humanity to Create a Peaceful World with Religion in it?
November 1, 2016 at 7:08 pm
Yeah. They want to help Israel so all but 144,000 of them can be killed off.
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