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Jesus loves everyone or does he?
August 28, 2010 at 3:24 pm
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Quote:A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, "Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession."
Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us."
He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."
The woman came and knelt before him. "Lord, help me!" she said.
He replied, "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
"Yes, Lord," she said, "but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table."
Then Jesus answered, "Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted." And her daughter was healed from that very hour.
Matthew 15:22-28
what a jerk!
Probably you all know about it but I didn't. When you compare to this words even Muhammed is better person...
Edit: well thats probably an exaggeration 
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RE: Jesus loves everyone or does he?
August 28, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Quote:He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."
Well,well,well.....
I was under the impression that JC was supposed to save all of humanity.
Where is this little gem from?
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RE: Jesus loves everyone or does he?
August 28, 2010 at 9:04 pm
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Just an old jewish habit I guess...
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August 28, 2010 at 9:33 pm
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RE: Jesus loves everyone or does he?
August 29, 2010 at 12:02 am
Jesus Loves everyone who loves him first.. I like to call this the "Jesus Condition" .. like the jelous boyfriend/husband if you dont love him back he beats you (or jesus's case sends you to hell). Or the easy answer to that is NO if you look at the definition of love in the BIBLE (corinthians) the part in there about keeping no record of wrongs / or not self seeking/ always protects...... god/jesus is all about self seeking records are kept.. and how is sending you to hell protective .....
Did I make a good point? thumbs up  I cant help it I'm a Kudos whore. P.S. Jesus is a MYTH.
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RE: Jesus loves everyone or does he?
August 29, 2010 at 12:36 am
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It seemed to me that this actually means, Jews are masters and you(we) are their dogs. And you(we) can only eat when you(we) accept your(our) places. But I am waiting for some one who will say that is not literal... Of course this statement was a secret question: "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs." and this was the right password: "but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table."
Jesus christ the champion of poor if only you are a jew.(is there any poor jew?) I get it now..
Explain this fellow christians! Tell me that its not literal. And tell me what that really means. 
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RE: Jesus loves everyone or does he?
August 29, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Couldn't you just google the answer to this question?
This is a classic piece of Scripture that Christians, like me, would have heard preached about (probably poorly much of the time) growing up "in the faith". I would imagine most "active Christians" are aware of this verse, though maybe less would understand it?
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RE: Jesus loves everyone or does he?
August 30, 2010 at 12:40 am
Quote:what a jerk!
Probably you all know about it but I didn't. When you compare to this words even Muhammed is better person...
Edit: well thats probably an exaggeration
Um. No. Tell me about the context of the time? Did Jews and non-Jews hang out with each other? What gosphel was this written in?
Quote:Jesus Loves everyone who loves him first.. I like to call this the "Jesus Condition" .. like the jelous boyfriend/husband if you dont love him back he beats you (or jesus's case sends you to hell). Or the easy answer to that is NO if you look at the definition of love in the BIBLE (corinthians) the part in there about keeping no record of wrongs / or not self seeking/ always protects...... god/jesus is all about self seeking records are kept.. and how is sending you to hell protective .....
Congratulations, your theology is inline with American fundamentalists, who dont take in regard the culture, theology or philosophy but proof text...
Read Romans . Its always a good place to start mate...
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.
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RE: Jesus loves everyone or does he?
August 30, 2010 at 2:52 am
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Quote:Um. No. Tell me about the context of the time? Did Jews and non-Jews hang out with each other? What gosphel was this written in?
Is that matter?At those times calling someone as dog was a compliment yes.
Actually This is just a repetition of usual jewish racism. You can't justify this story no matter what.
And its in Matthew 15:22-28
Quote:This is a classic piece of Scripture that Christians, like me, would have heard preached about (probably poorly much of the time) growing up "in the faith". I would imagine most "active Christians" are aware of this verse, though maybe less would understand it?
Story is about knowing your place not faith. Jews are masters you are their dog. Its not faith its the submission of a slave.
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RE: Jesus loves everyone or does he?
August 30, 2010 at 5:29 am
Since you already think you know the answer, clearly whatever I say is not going to change your opinion...
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.
You dont hate God, you hate the church game.
"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine
Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer
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