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New Clinton email controversy
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(October 30, 2016 at 4:18 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Also, the Lichtman video was from September, before all three debates, before the sexual assault admission video and subsequent slew of accusations. I would have told you that I thought Trump was going to win at that time. Nate Silver had Trump ahead or too close to call during that time.

Lichtman doesn't care about those things. His model is based on the premise that Presidential elections are primarily a referendum on the performance of the previous term of Presidency.

(October 30, 2016 at 4:18 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: But you are parroting Trump. This is Trump's campaign line, crafted after he got caught encouraging a foreign government to tamper with our election. His only recourse was to obfuscate and claim that "we don't know who it was."

I don't care if it is his line or not, we do not know who supplied the emails to Wikileaks. It could have been the Russians. Or for all we know the Russians may have hacked the email server, and someone else like India also hacked it separately and they're the ones that leaked the emails to Wikileaks. There's no compelling evidence that it was the Russians that is public knowledge.

And besides - why would the Russians want to help Trump over Clinton? What are they going to gain by doing that?

What you're doing FYI is parroting Clinton's line. She made it a political tactic to blame the Russians for the leaked hacked emails.

(October 30, 2016 at 4:18 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: You are now doing the same obfuscation. No one is claiming to know that it was for sure the Russian government. We know a lot of things that point in that direction, and we know of zero things that point to China, or India for that matter, chucklefuck. All of the US Intelligence entities =/= "some CIA spoof." Most non-government cybersecurity experts who have examined the hack have the same conclusion. The only ones who aren't sure are merely skeptical. This whole "we don't know for sure but it could be the Indians" gambit is right out of the Trump playbook. Congrats.

Again, SC, if they had real evidence they would say what it is. These are the same assholes that told the world they were confident that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction - do you remember that?
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If Hillary is anti-catholic that just makes me want to vote for her more. Fuck the Catholic Church.
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(October 30, 2016 at 10:07 am)Divinity Wrote: If Hillary is anti-catholic that just makes me want to vote for her more.  Fuck the Catholic Church.

Change the words "Catholic" and "Catholic Church" to "Muslim" and "Islam," and otherwise keep this post exactly the same. I'm assuming you'd get a very different response from the left.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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(October 30, 2016 at 2:08 am)Jesster Wrote: I don't care anymore. I just want this horrible election to be over.

That's about how I feel too actually. It's just sad to see good, decent people putting aside everything they stand for to support and defend either one of those 2 clowns.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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(October 30, 2016 at 10:42 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(October 30, 2016 at 2:08 am)Jesster Wrote: I don't care anymore. I just want this horrible election to be over.

That's about how I feel too actually. It's just sad to see good, decent people putting aside everything they stand for to support and defend either one of those 2 clowns.

I respect this, but I don't have to put anything aside to support my candidate of choice. Strongly. Not everything in the press is correct.
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(October 30, 2016 at 10:38 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Change the words "Catholic" and "Catholic Church" to "Muslim" and "Islam," and otherwise keep this post exactly the same. I'm assuming you'd get a very different response from the left.

From some people, sure.  Just as I'd get a different response from the right for saying what I did, yet would be praised for saying fuck Islam.

I have no love for Islam or the Catholic Church.  The people part of those churches are okay by me, but the churches themselves? They can go fuck themselves..  

(BTW: It was Catholics who made those anti-catholic comments)
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"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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If The Flintstones have taught us anything, it's that pelicans can be used to mix cement.

-Homer Simpson
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