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RE: Ask a Bible college Student
November 4, 2016 at 8:31 pm
@CL, your views are great... but they pertain to a society with not enough people for all the land that needs tending.
Our society doesn't require that each couple have many children to help with the work around the fields... Many of us don't even have fields to tend... just bills to pay. But women keep producing eggs every month, or so. Women's bodies have yet to catch up with common usage... 
As a result of this disparity, undesired pregnancies occur. Often.
Luckily, there's a way to be aware of them and, if that is the wish of the parents, prevent those fetuses from ever becoming sentient.
Should we force people to endure those unwanted pregnancies? and all that comes with a child? nursing, daycare, diapers, sleepless nights, educating, teaching, teenage, drugs, diseases, blah, blah, blah...
Should we, as a society force people to be parents when they don't want to?
What is the best compromise? kill a fetus or force people to be parents?
The big picture here encompasses a world where the threat of overpopulation is looming on the horizon...
The bigger picture.... well.... we're just a mote of dust, suspended in a sunbeam... nothing matters.
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RE: Ask a Bible college Student
November 4, 2016 at 8:36 pm
(November 3, 2016 at 11:29 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: (November 3, 2016 at 11:21 am)pocaracas Wrote: Why is the "Ask a..." subforum inside the introductions one? 
I don't know why that it is in there but I do know that that it is in there.
Maybe its 'god's will?'
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RE: Ask a Bible college Student
November 4, 2016 at 10:35 pm
Emzap is probably like what the eff happened to my thread lol. Sorry Emzap. Welcome to AF, where threads take on a life of their own.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Ask a Bible college Student
November 4, 2016 at 11:16 pm
(November 4, 2016 at 11:39 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: The op seems to have abandoned the thread. I wonder was it all the fallacies in his holy book thrown at him or the fact we didn't immediately bow down and worship yhwh?
It was actually the fact that I'm a full time student, working 20 hours a week, have a lot of assignments, and occasionally try to have a social life. ;)
My faith is not shaken, and I did not expect anyone to believe in God based on me being here and sharing what I believe.
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RE: Ask a Bible college Student
November 4, 2016 at 11:26 pm
(November 4, 2016 at 7:35 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (November 4, 2016 at 4:51 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'm against the lives that are lost as a result.
I think of it this way...she is giving life a chance that would have never had a chance without the procedure. As a mom, it makes me a little sad too, to think of their little embryos that didn't stick. But then I think, if she can carry just one of those to term that's a person who would have never been otherwise. And they get to be parents, and love a child. Why just let all those eggs be released, wasted, for nothing, if one could end up being their precious child? They may lose embryos trying, but if they don't try, they lose EVERY embryo that could have ever been.
And my theory is that rape is God's way of fixing his plan when you marry the wrong guy. Does that sound about right?
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RE: Ask a Bible college Student
November 4, 2016 at 11:28 pm
(November 4, 2016 at 7:52 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Curmudgeonly plays a little better instead of crotchety there.
Takes longer for it to sink in, and therefore with the expected shorter attention span, there is less chance of a negative response.
I personally prefer when the ladies get their crotchety on.
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RE: Ask a Bible college Student
November 4, 2016 at 11:31 pm
(November 4, 2016 at 11:16 pm)Emzap Wrote: (November 4, 2016 at 11:39 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: The op seems to have abandoned the thread. I wonder was it all the fallacies in his holy book thrown at him or the fact we didn't immediately bow down and worship yhwh?
It was actually the fact that I'm a full time student, working 20 hours a week, have a lot of assignments, and occasionally try to have a social life. 
My faith is not shaken, and I did not expect anyone to believe in God based on me being here and sharing what I believe.
And that is why you succeed.
(For the record, I'm glad C_L meant the embryo.)
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RE: Ask a Bible college Student
November 4, 2016 at 11:53 pm
(November 4, 2016 at 11:16 pm)Emzap Wrote: It was actually the fact that I'm a full time student, working 20 hours a week, have a lot of assignments, and occasionally try to have a social life.
My faith is not shaken, and I did not expect anyone to believe in God based on me being here and sharing what I believe.
I like this guy. :fistbump:
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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RE: Ask a Bible college Student
November 5, 2016 at 12:08 am
(November 4, 2016 at 11:17 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: It's not her dna. Meaning, it's not her. Also meaning it's not part of her.
But it is. It's the DNA of her egg and the DNA of the father's sperm.
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RE: Ask a Bible college Student
November 5, 2016 at 12:11 am
(November 4, 2016 at 7:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Like I said, you didn't actually think they were people. You think they are just lumps of cells no different from cells that shed off our bodies every day. I think you are a decent person and I imagine if you had thought they were people you would never have donated them to be experimented on and later destroyed. For the 4th time, I do not think you deserve life imprisonment.
As for why I keep bringing society into this, it's because I'm talking about personal culpability. Which plays a huge role in whether or not I think a person is deserving of going to jail, which was the question you were asking me. If you can't understand that in the way I have already explained it, then I don't know what else to tell you. We may just have to leave it as is and move on.
*sighs*
Never mind.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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