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RE: Catholics VS Protestants Debate Thread
November 8, 2016 at 5:46 pm
(November 8, 2016 at 4:52 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (November 8, 2016 at 4:09 pm)Edward Johns Wrote: Welcome to the Catholic VS Protestant Discussion Thread on atheist forum! This thread is all about debating which form of Christianity is true, Catholic or Protestant. Feel free to discuss any topic relating to Catholicism or Protestantism(all denominations 33,000+ Welcome!)for or against arguments.
I Catholic will start this off. Questions Catholics usually ask protestants. There’s more to it than just these.
· If Jesus intended for Christianity to be exclusively a “religion of the book,” why did He wait 1400 years before showing somebody how to build a printing press?
· If Christianity is a “book religion,” how did it flourish during the first 1500 years of Church history when the vast majority of people were illiterate?
· Where did Jesus give instructions that the Christian faith should be based exclusively on a book? The Doctrine of Sola Scriptura is not taught anywhere in the Bible.
· Where in the New Testament do the apostles tell future generations that the Christian faith will be based solely on a book?
· Where in the Bible do we find an inspired and infallible list of books that should belong in the Bible? (e.g., Is the Bible’s Table of Contents inspired?)
· some Protestants claim that Jesus condemned all oral tradition (e.g., Matt 15:3, 6; Mark 7:813). If so, why does He bind His listeners to oral tradition by telling them to obey the scribes and Pharisees when they “sit on Moses’ seat” (Matt 23:2)? 5) Some Protestants claim that St. Paul condemned all oral tradition (Col 2:8). If so, why does he tell the Thessalonians to “stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter” (2 Thes 2:15) and praises the Corinthians because they “hold firmly to the traditions” (1 Cor 11:2)?
· If the meaning of the Bible is so clear—so easily interpreted—and if the Holy Spirit leads every Christian to interpret it for themselves, then why are there over 33,000 Protestant denominations, and millions of individual Protestants, all interpreting the Bible differently?
· If the Bible is the only foundation and basis of Christian truth, why does the Bible itself say that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Tim. 3:15)?
· Who in the Church had the authority to determine which books belonged in the New Testament canon and to make this decision binding on all Christians? If nobody has this authority, then can I remove or add books to the canon on my own authority? Scriptura, why do the creeds of the early Church always say “we believe in the Holy Catholic Church,” and not “we believe in Holy Scripture”?
· If the Bible is as clear as Martin Luther claimed, why was he the first one to interpret it the way he did and why was he frustrated at the end of his life that “there are now as many doctrines as there are heads”?
Give me some time to respond, pretty busy the rest of today, should have my reply by sometime tomorrow.
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RE: Catholics VS Protestants Debate Thread
November 8, 2016 at 5:48 pm
(November 8, 2016 at 5:14 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Though I'm thinking this might have been meant to be a joke.
Really?
The fuckers aren't known for their sense of humor.
I was referring to a joke on MH B's part.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Catholics VS Protestants Debate Thread
November 8, 2016 at 5:48 pm
Here in an atheist forum?
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RE: Catholics VS Protestants Debate Thread
November 8, 2016 at 5:49 pm
(November 8, 2016 at 4:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (November 8, 2016 at 4:44 pm)abaris Wrote: What is a protestant in your opinion? It's certainly something very different in Europe than the abundance of protestant denominations in America. Some of them I wouldn't touch with a barge pole, and it's more than fair to compare them to the Taliban. In Europe protestants are mainstream in their vast majority, and in most cases more liberal than the Catholics as far as social issues are concerned. Can't say the same about America though.
And, personal caveat, that OP guy isn't real. At least not in the sense of what he pretends to be.
A protestant is simply a Christian who is not Catholic.
They're not Orthodox either.
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RE: Catholics VS Protestants Debate Thread
November 8, 2016 at 6:03 pm
(November 8, 2016 at 4:09 pm)Edward Johns Wrote: Welcome to the Catholic VS Protestant Discussion Thread on atheist forum! This thread is all about debating which form of Christianity is true, Catholic or Protestant. Feel free to discuss any topic relating to Catholicism or Protestantism(all denominations 33,000+ Welcome!)for or against arguments.
Catholics have better fine art.
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RE: Catholics VS Protestants Debate Thread
November 8, 2016 at 6:06 pm
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They should, they stole all the pagan artists and themes.
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RE: Catholics VS Protestants Debate Thread
November 8, 2016 at 6:10 pm
(November 8, 2016 at 4:16 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Anything less than a Thirty Years' War is unacceptable.
Okay, I'm willing to wait thirty years to declare a winner. Go!
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RE: Catholics VS Protestants Debate Thread
November 8, 2016 at 6:11 pm
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(November 8, 2016 at 5:48 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I was referring to a joke on MH B's part.
I understood it that way, though I'm in doubt it was meant to be a joke.
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RE: Catholics VS Protestants Debate Thread
November 8, 2016 at 8:08 pm
Santa Claus or Easter Bunny?
Go!
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RE: Catholics VS Protestants Debate Thread
November 8, 2016 at 8:22 pm
(November 8, 2016 at 6:11 pm)abaris Wrote: (November 8, 2016 at 5:48 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I was referring to a joke on MH B's part.
I understood it that way, though I'm in doubt it was meant to be a joke.
Negative nelly.
Now that's a fine joke.
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