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TPP is dead
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TPP is dead
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today. 


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How am I supposed to evaluate that !

[taps toe in exasperation]

Bernie hates TPP.

Trump too.

Obama has a hard on for it.

Congress is (was) bipartisan support.

Hillary was against it before she was for it or vice versa.


You know, when ya don't know what the fuck you're doin', maybe you better not do anything till it gets clear ??



Stoopid moofoos running the goddam country; shit otta be obvious its the right thing to do or else do nothing. How fucking hard was that ?
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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Not Toilet Paper Patty!? Oh gawd, oh gawd, oh gawd! Why her??? SHHHHHH.
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closed doors, AGAIN ?
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today. 


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Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today. 


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ISDS is nothing new.  It is incorporated in NAFTA which has been around since the 1990's.
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Trade deals are good for prices and exports, bad for certain kinds of jobs.

There is a trade off. So while manufacturing jobs go away (and they are going away anyways with the advancement of technology), products get cheaper and there are more customers if you make something exportable. Overall, TPP would have been better for US consumers and exporters, (the former group is all of us) but would have had a not insignificant effect on manufacturing jobs.

To me, manufacturing jobs are like coal jobs, if you are planning on a future there, you're going to be up shit's creek. I work in a massive automotive plant, and there couldn't be a more stark difference between the crew manning the machining line that I work with (which is closing next week after being in service for 18 years) and the brand new machining area they just built for the big V8. Three times the crew required on the Ecotec engine (the old line). The new line is 1/2 the size, robots do more than just pick shit up and move it to the next station. Each station has articulating 3D robots that do everything. Even the visual inspections are done by infrared camera. The only reason machinists are there is to do bench tests on every 50th part.

The bulk of the crew is now young electricians with an IT background, because all of these machines are basically huge PLDs.

Robots and computers are taking all of the jobs, let's stop blaming trade deals.
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