Differences from societal norms

[Excited Penguin]

What you said could very well be interpreted as to mean fetuses are not important and we shouldn't worry about them. How is that agreeing with me ? 

Pulling your leg of course but while entirely fine with leaving it to each woman to decide how she wants to handle the complications ensuing from our mutual pursuit of pleasure.  Happy to give my input, but it isn't my body so I recognize it is her call.  But haven't we been around this bend more than a couple times recently?  Letting it go ...

I have no idea what you just said. Figure out what you want to say and stick with it.

If you're trying to tell me I shouldn't discuss abortion, thanks for your input, but no.

If you're trying to convey to me your position on the matter, you're not doing a very good job, and besides, I don't know that anyone asked for it.

[Bob Kelso]

Each society develops, over time, an idea of what is and isn't "acceptable". This isn't written down anywhere; it just represents a mix of opinions at any given time. These are the norms of a society.

So my question is this: in what ways do your own ideas differ from the society you are currently in? How closely do you feel attuned to it? What do you think should be viewed more favourably, and what do you think deserves more scorn?

I feel attuned to my atheism, not by choice and not to be edgy, but because of the area I live in. Here in Tennessee people speak about religion quite regularly, especially in the medical field, and it makes it quite obvious that I'm outside the norm in that area here. Frankly I think being an atheist should be viewed with more favor, not in the sense that it's better but to bring it up to the same level of respect people show Christians really. If that makes sense. 

What deserves more scorn? Many things in my opinion, but if I had to single one thing out I'd say the obsession over race. It's become acceptable to identify so closely with one's race that it consumes their personality -making them boring and adversarial to others- and frankly I think it's ridiculous.

[Dystopia]

I don't like how my society treats marriage - It's not really the issue of gay marriage itself but marriage is seen as the normal way of people uniting, but many folks want to live with their loved ones without getting married and that's fine. I also dislike how people in my society have the tendency of whispering with each other about what's wrong but when the moment of truth comes they do nothing.

I like the way people are united and help each other and are courteous, specially between family and friends. I also like the relaxed way we Portuguese interact with each other, with lots of physical contact and very casual compared to other cultures. I friend of mine from erasmus finds it odd that I greet my close female friends with a hug and a kiss on the cheek.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Hm? Death can happen before birth. As is evident by the many women who lose their babies while still pregnant with them. If they are far enough in gestational age, death is identified by the heart beat stopping. Heartbeat begins at 16 days after conception.

What I mean is death to a fetus before birth is not the same as death to a baby after birth.

Other than physical location, what has changed?

[Angrboda]

[robvalue]

I don't like how my society treats marriage - It's not really the issue of gay marriage itself but marriage is seen as the normal way of people uniting, but many folks want to live with their loved ones without getting married and that's fine. I also dislike how people in my society have the tendency of whispering with each other about what's wrong but when the moment of truth comes they do nothing.

I like the way people are united and help each other and are courteous, specially between family and friends. I also like the relaxed way we Portuguese interact with each other, with lots of physical contact and very casual compared to other cultures. I friend of mine from erasmus finds it odd that I greet my close female friends with a hug and a kiss on the cheek.

Are you saying you dislike how living together while not married is viewed?

I forget what country you're in. Here in England it doesn't seem to be an issue. I agree with you, it shouldn't be one.

[Edwardo Piet]

What I mean is death to a fetus before birth is not the same as death to a baby after birth.

Other than physical location, what has changed?

A baby is fully developed.

[Catholic_Lady]

To be fair, no one is "fully developed" until after puberty. Just at different stages of development until we hit adulthood and start deteriorating from there.

[Autumnlicious]

There's a significant divide between an embryo - fetal transitions versus teenager-young adult transitions.

Were your statement to be interpreted seriously, CL, it would be considered disingenuous given that you would normally be expeted to be aware of what Ham meant in his statement.

[Cecelia]

I talk and chew gum all the time, even though society considers it unacceptable. I'm a gum addict.