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RE: What gives a religion the right to claim their fantasy is correct and the rest false?
November 15, 2016 at 1:35 am
Everyone loves to think they are right. I suppose ones religious beliefs are not immune to this.
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RE: What gives a religion the right to claim their fantasy is correct and the rest false?
November 15, 2016 at 1:40 am
If you're an atheist, you also think everyone's religion is wrong and you're the one who's right. It's really no different and there's nothing wrong with that. So long as you respect the other's views.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: What gives a religion the right to claim their fantasy is correct and the rest false?
November 15, 2016 at 2:07 am
Is there that much difference between thinking 69,999 Christ based religions are false instead of 70,000 ?
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November 15, 2016 at 3:00 am
(November 15, 2016 at 1:40 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: If you're an atheist, you also think everyone's religion is wrong and you're the one who's right. It's really no different and there's nothing wrong with that. So long as you respect the other's views. The difference being I don't base my views off of bronze age mythology. Until someone provides evidence for one, there is no god. This is not debatable.
And no I do not have to 'respect' someones belief in fairy tales. That is debatable and is an dea often debated among atheists.
“Love is the only bow on Life’s dark cloud. It is the morning and the evening star. It shines upon the babe, and sheds its radiance on the quiet tomb. It is the mother of art, inspirer of poet, patriot and philosopher.
It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.
Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll
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RE: What gives a religion the right to claim their fantasy is correct and the rest false?
November 15, 2016 at 7:59 am
(November 15, 2016 at 1:40 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: If you're an atheist, you also think everyone's religion is wrong and you're the one who's right. It's really no different and there's nothing wrong with that. So long as you respect the other's views.
You have every right to be wrong. hehehehehehe
I tolerate worse wrongs on a daily basis.
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RE: What gives a religion the right to claim their fantasy is correct and the rest false?
November 15, 2016 at 8:06 am
In the old days you had the right to claim all others were false because you had a giant army and wicked torture devices.
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RE: What gives a religion the right to claim their fantasy is correct and the rest false?
November 15, 2016 at 8:14 am
(November 14, 2016 at 10:01 pm)Casca Wrote: Science is based on evidence, facts, and theories supported by evidence and fact.
So what exactly gives one religion the leg to stand on and say "this religion is true, the rest are false", when there is no evidence or fact to back up their claim?
Nothing, but holding the keys to heaven and hell ensured obedience in many people, entire populaces. Its about the power over others and nothing more.
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RE: What gives a religion the right to claim their fantasy is correct and the rest false?
November 15, 2016 at 10:32 am
(November 15, 2016 at 3:00 am)operator Wrote: (November 15, 2016 at 1:40 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: If you're an atheist, you also think everyone's religion is wrong and you're the one who's right. It's really no different and there's nothing wrong with that. So long as you respect the other's views. The difference being I don't base my views off of bronze age mythology. Until someone provides evidence for one, there is no god. This is not debatable.
And no I do not have to 'respect' someones belief in fairy tales. That is debatable and is an dea often debated among atheists.
I don't think it really matters. The thread is about thinking your own opinion/ideology is correct and everyone else's is wrong. We all do it. If we didn't think our way was correct, it wouldn't be our way, obviously.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: What gives a religion the right to claim their fantasy is correct and the rest false?
November 15, 2016 at 10:34 am
But..my atheism doesn't have a claim to be 'right' about. I'm just saying that I'm unconvinced by theist claims (so far, anyway).
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RE: What gives a religion the right to claim their fantasy is correct and the rest false?
November 15, 2016 at 10:34 am
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(November 15, 2016 at 2:07 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Is there that much difference between thinking 69,999 Christ based religions are false instead of 70,000 ?
^This.
As an atheist, you think 1,000,000 religions are wrong. As a Catholic I think 999,999 religions are wrong. At the end of the day, we both think WE are right and everyone else who thinks differently is wrong. Which is kind of the whole point of having an objective opinion.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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