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Atheism is irrational.
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RE: Atheism is irrational.
November 22, 2016 at 8:00 am
Oh, and in case anyone in the world hasn't seen this video, I explain why any argument without evidence does not show anything about reality.



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RE: Atheism is irrational.
November 22, 2016 at 8:01 am
(November 21, 2016 at 10:23 am)Shell B Wrote: Listen, your religion, and others like it, defined god. You gave it shape (it looks like man), you gave it function and you even gave it purpose. Based on the parameters you gave, and needing nothing else, we are able to logically, intellectually deny its existence.

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RE: Atheism is irrational.
November 22, 2016 at 8:07 am
If it is possible for a single unmoved mover to exist it is possible for more than one to exist. Why do theists always argue for only one god?
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RE: Atheism is irrational.
November 22, 2016 at 8:09 am
It's making sense is secondary to its appearing to justify what they already think.
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RE: Atheism is irrational.
November 22, 2016 at 8:14 am
And why do they think it, wise man?
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RE: Atheism is irrational.
November 22, 2016 at 8:14 am
(November 22, 2016 at 8:07 am)chimp3 Wrote: If it is possible for a single unmoved mover to exist it is possible for more than one to exist. Why do theists always argue for only one god?

State of the culture. More than half the lug nuts are on the "God" tire.
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#77
RE: Atheism is irrational.
November 22, 2016 at 8:23 am
Polytheism is much more fun! Cosmic orgies, wine, and warfare!
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#78
RE: Atheism is irrational.
November 22, 2016 at 10:01 am
(November 22, 2016 at 7:55 am)robvalue Wrote: 3. So there must be something that doesn't need a cause starting the chain.

How do we determine what that thing is?

This, to me, is what shows that none of the interventionist Gods that people believe in are real. For all of its flaws, the argument from design makes intuitive sense to people, and since the other explanation for the existence of the universe is "we don't know" it is that much more compelling to a mind that strongly desires closure in all matters. But that argument only gets us to one or more creators. It tells us nothing about it or them. NOTHING.

So it's not surprising that throughout human history our Gods are too numerous to count and they come in every possible variety. Even today --after centuries of discussion and argumentation and interpretation and philosophizing-- people cannot agree on who or what this God is and what it or they want. Ask a bunch of people of the same religious denomination to describe God and you will get a different description from each one. If all of these 'proofs' of God can't get us any further than "God has to exist" then there is no way to determine who/what it/they are.

I'm willing to grant the claim that a God is necessary just so that we can watch as the multitude of religions and denominations go about determining just who this necessary being is. How long before we go from arguing about how to apply metaphysics to a room full of dead zealots?
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#79
RE: Atheism is irrational.
November 22, 2016 at 10:54 am
(November 22, 2016 at 8:23 am)chimp3 Wrote: Polytheism is much more fun! Cosmic orgies, wine, and warfare!

Much more logically consistent too. Avoids the problem of evil, avoids the omnipotence, omniprescence and omniscience problems, and a whole host of other logical impossibilities.
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RE: Atheism is irrational.
November 22, 2016 at 11:36 am
(November 22, 2016 at 8:07 am)chimp3 Wrote: If it is possible for a single unmoved mover to exist it is possible for more than one to exist. Why do theists always argue for only one god?

Two magic, bearded men in the sky?  That's just absurd.
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