Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: January 11, 2025, 2:59 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
why not believe in God!
#51
RE: why not believe in God!
(September 2, 2010 at 9:45 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(September 2, 2010 at 7:46 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Proof is in the bible Min. Many very scholarly types (Christadelphians; Jehovas Witnesses) miss the point too.



Bible's a pile of shit, Frods. Now what?

Now nothing, that was it.
.
Reply
#52
RE: why not believe in God!
(September 2, 2010 at 6:51 pm)Entropist Wrote:
(September 2, 2010 at 1:24 pm)ibelieve04142000 Wrote: I had one of you atheist say there is no absolutes.

Assuming you are referring to my earlier post, I did not say there were no absolutes-- I said there is no such thing as absolute certainty. Nuance.

If I may, I think, pedantically correct that. There is a such thing as absolute certainty. In the sense there are plenty of people who are absolutely certain about at least some things. There just isn't absolute knowledge, in the sense that, whether you're absolutely certain of something or not, that doesn't mean you absolutely know it in truth.
Reply
#53
RE: why not believe in God!
(September 3, 2010 at 4:08 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: If I may, I think, pedantically correct that. There is a such thing as absolute certainty. In the sense there are plenty of people who are absolutely certain about at least some things. There just isn't absolute knowledge, in the sense that, whether you're absolutely certain of something or not, that doesn't mean you absolutely know it in truth.

True. I think that is a much more accurate way of putting it.
“Society is not a disease, it is a disaster. What a stupid miracle that one can live in it.” ~ E.M. Cioran
Reply
#54
RE: why not believe in God!
(September 3, 2010 at 12:48 am)theVOID Wrote:
(September 2, 2010 at 9:45 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(September 2, 2010 at 7:46 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Proof is in the bible Min. Many very scholarly types (Christadelphians; Jehovas Witnesses) miss the point too.
Bible's a pile of shit, Frods. Now what?
Now nothing, that was it.
Yep. When you miss the point... you're done.
Reply
#55
RE: why not believe in God!
(September 2, 2010 at 7:46 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Proof is in the bible Min. Many very scholarly types (Christadelphians; Jehovas Witnesses) miss the point too.

Oh? really?

Where?
[Image: mybannerglitter06eee094.gif]
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
Reply
#56
RE: why not believe in God!
Some see the wood but can't find any trees
Reply
#57
RE: why not believe in God!
(September 3, 2010 at 1:09 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Some see the wood but can't find any trees

No one has ever done that, a wood is a grouping of trees, if you see a wood you see trees.Confused Fall



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








Reply
#58
RE: why not believe in God!
(September 2, 2010 at 1:24 pm)ibelieve04142000 Wrote: Good try man but I didn't trust in God until I was 15. Thanks though. When I look at the Bible I see logic.
Logic? What logic in the bible? What I see are fairy tales and the imaginings of primative bronze-age men with modern people attempting to 'interpret' the work into meaning something other than what it literally says to accomindate all the glaring errors and inconsistencies within the novel.
Even second-rate authors can make a more coherant and likable story than the bible's authors but the story is supposed to be written by god, who is often defined as omnipotent and omnicient. Do you really think that such a powerful intelligence would write such a poor novel? eesh.

(September 2, 2010 at 1:24 pm)ibelieve04142000 Wrote: I had one of you atheist say there is no absolutes. Well the means you must take things for granted or use that ugly word "trust" or "believe" in the unexplainible things of nature or the unexplained things of the universe. I just simply choose to believe instead of not believe.
Just to note that there being no absolutes in the universe does not mean that everything is absolutely uncertain enough to require any form of belief. It doesn't take any measure of belief that the sun will rise tomorrow, my cat will still want to be fed tomorrow morning, gravity will always pull things at a rate of 9.8 meters per second, the speed of light is just under 300 million meters per second, and water will still be made up of two parts hydrogen for every oxygen molecule. Despite being well known and very consistent, none of these things are without some error in our understanding of all of these things and the forces that control them.
Your religious faith, on the other hand, requires belief because the supernatural has failed to exist in the universe. You have to believe in god in hte exact same way I used to believe in Santa Claus. Because everyone told me he existed and even though I never met him there were signs of him everywhere with no actual evidence. It's just that people were putting him there, wearing his uniform, and signing things with his name.

(September 2, 2010 at 1:24 pm)ibelieve04142000 Wrote: I have no hard evidence or pictures of God in the family album but don't feel sorry for me I am a normal person with anormal job who loves the Lord and I serve Him out of love not duty or fear. Thanks for ur thoughts though.

There's nothing wrong with that, but keep in mind that I and most certainly others on this forum all view your beliefs with the same eyes that we see in adults to still think that Santa Claus is a real person or hold other imaginary friends.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Reply
#59
RE: why not believe in God!
(September 3, 2010 at 12:48 am)theVOID Wrote:
(September 2, 2010 at 9:45 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(September 2, 2010 at 7:46 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Proof is in the bible Min. Many very scholarly types (Christadelphians; Jehovas Witnesses) miss the point too.



Bible's a pile of shit, Frods. Now what?

Now nothing, that was it.


It usually is.

Reply
#60
RE: why not believe in God!
Notice how fr0d0 just confirmed my accusation by refusing to respond to any point of contention again...
.
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  New Yorker doesn't believe in god Silas Stingy 13 3082 November 9, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Last Post: Minimalist
  Why I no longer believe. dmrob2009 28 6012 July 12, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Last Post: Epimethean



Users browsing this thread: 3 Guest(s)