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RE: What's your thoughts on Trump?
February 26, 2017 at 12:40 pm
(February 26, 2017 at 12:03 pm)Zenith Wrote: Things like terrorist attacks tend to to put people in defensive-aggressive mode, and this is where Trump can win big time.
As it happened with 9/11. The press took a long time to recover from all out patriotism mode. As Hermann Göring said to Gilbert in the prison of Nuremberg. Say what you want about him. He wasn't an idiot.
Quote:Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.[…] That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
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RE: What's your thoughts on Trump?
February 26, 2017 at 12:45 pm
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My first thoughts on Trump is that he's a bigoted disingenuous right wing asshole moron for bigoted disingenuous right wing asshole morons.
(December 1, 2016 at 2:20 pm)Napoléon Wrote: What ties does Trump have to the political classes that get anywhere near the level of corruption that Hillary Clinton has? Genuinely asking because I'd like to know.
The idea of Trump being less corrupt than Clinton is hilarious.
When it comes to political corruption Trump is at the level of sucking Putin's cock.
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RE: What's your thoughts on Trump?
February 26, 2017 at 1:05 pm
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(February 26, 2017 at 12:45 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: The idea of Trump being less corrupt than Clinton is hilarious.
When it comes to political corruption Trump is at the level of sucking Putin's cock.
So, do you have actual evidence of corruption or are you just stating this because Trump's stance on Putin isn't one of the continual bear poking that has done the world so well thus far?
In my view, the idea of anyone being more corrupt than Clinton is indeed the hilarious one.
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RE: What's your thoughts on Trump?
February 26, 2017 at 1:12 pm
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(February 26, 2017 at 12:40 pm)abaris Wrote: As it happened with 9/11. The press took a long time to recover from all out patriotism mode. As Hermann Göring said to Gilbert in the prison of Nuremberg. Say what you want about him. He wasn't an idiot.
I believe that the greatest mistake people can make now is to underestimate Trump. That's the mistake Obama also made when he laughed "At least I'll go down as a president." It happens not too seldom that a guy or a party with fewer chances wins because the other side are convinced it's got no chance.
Trump is not an idiot. Or at least his counselors are tough guys. After all, it takes something to build up a propaganda that makes you the president of USA, doesn't it? One may laugh of the absurd things he says, but let's face it, when he speaks those things he doesn't speak to us, he speaks to his supporters.
As of the press, I think they've got a huge power, and sometimes they don't even realize it. In their hunt for "ratings" they can mess up a whole country. I try to imagine how it would've been like if the pressed had ignored Trump during his whole campaign, and avoid interviewing him and hearing him and discussing about the shocking things he was saying. Trump was actually doing marketing - attracting people, telling everybody who he is. And from everything everyone threw back at him, "racist", "xenophobic", and so on, he managed to deflect, making it to look like he, along with his supporters, were the victims of an evil system, and that all he needed was the votes, in order to restore the world back to justice and freedom. A similar thing happened with the syrian refugees and the terrorist attacks: the press had a very powerful impact. And the press can make you feel like the political "establishment" is against you (if they skip important bad things), and it can also make you feel like your country is being invaded by barbarians (if they show much of the bad things that happen). But they're hunting for ratings, aren't they?
(February 26, 2017 at 1:05 pm)Napoléon Wrote: In my view, the idea of anyone being more corrupt than Clinton is indeed the hilarious one.
Anyone in USA, you mean, right?
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RE: What's your thoughts on Trump?
February 26, 2017 at 1:15 pm
(February 26, 2017 at 1:12 pm)Zenith Wrote: Trump is not an idiot. Or at least his counselors are tough guys. After all, it takes something to build up a propaganda that makes you the president of USA, doesn't it? One may laugh of the absurd things he says, but let's face it, when he speaks those things he doesn't speak to us, he speaks to his supporters.
Trum is an uneducated baffoon. But he's not a laughing stock being at the helm of the most powerful country, economical as well as politically. It's well to keep that in mind. I never mustered a smile over Shrub either although he was mensa material compared to this one.
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RE: What's your thoughts on Trump?
February 26, 2017 at 1:30 pm
(February 26, 2017 at 1:12 pm)Zenith Wrote: Anyone in USA, you mean, right?
Yes, obviously there are corrupt dictators around the world that take the biscuit. But you'd think that goes without saying doesn't it.
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RE: What's your thoughts on Trump?
February 26, 2017 at 2:52 pm
Trump in his short term in office so far is playing exactly the dictator to a t. . Demonizing sections of society and excluding the media. He has made the world a darker worse place. I can find nothing positive in what he has done.
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RE: What's your thoughts on Trump?
February 26, 2017 at 5:58 pm
As you can tell most people here are not in favour of Trump however Hilary Is not much better, It's still is quite remarkable that Bernie didn't make it to the election itself.
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RE: What's your thoughts on Trump?
February 26, 2017 at 6:04 pm
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(February 26, 2017 at 1:05 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (February 26, 2017 at 12:45 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: The idea of Trump being less corrupt than Clinton is hilarious.
When it comes to political corruption Trump is at the level of sucking Putin's cock.
So, do you have actual evidence of corruption or are you just stating this because Trump's stance on Putin isn't one of the continual bear poking that has done the world so well thus far?
In my view, the idea of anyone being more corrupt than Clinton is indeed the hilarious one.
LOL
Evidence of Donald Trump's corruption? Shouldn't I be asking you for evidence of his non-corruption? He's corruption on legs with silly hair.
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RE: What's your thoughts on Trump?
February 27, 2017 at 7:56 am
(February 26, 2017 at 1:05 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (February 26, 2017 at 12:45 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: The idea of Trump being less corrupt than Clinton is hilarious.
When it comes to political corruption Trump is at the level of sucking Putin's cock.
So, do you have actual evidence of corruption or are you just stating this because Trump's stance on Putin isn't one of the continual bear poking that has done the world so well thus far?
In my view, the idea of anyone being more corrupt than Clinton is indeed the hilarious one.
Well it was Putin's prostitutes tits rather than his cock, but the point stands...
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