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My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
December 5, 2016 at 1:36 pm
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2016 at 1:40 pm by Macoleco.)
I know, every life important. Helping refugees is okay, too. But letting them enter your country is another thing.
First of all, let me be more objective from a political perspective: letting refugees in means putting your own people in danger. And we all know the many accidents that have occured in countries like Germany and Switzerland. If you as a government let refugees in and they hurt civilians, it is your responsability.
Now, to my personal point of view: religion. These refugees have strong religious beliefs, and if you let them in, their religion will start to spread. They will start building churches and mosques. And this, in the long run, will hurt society, the world, a lot more than letting some people die. Yes, even children. (Example of this: Londonistan, eh, I mena, London)
If I was the president of a country, I would send food, water, clothes, etc to help the refugees. But I would never let them in my country. I am the president of MY country, not of the world. What happens to Syria isnt my problem.
What do you think?
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RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
December 5, 2016 at 1:41 pm
So keep out Arab Muslim and Christian refugees from Syria; but allow Kurds and ethnic Armenians from Syria in?
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RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
December 5, 2016 at 1:45 pm
(December 5, 2016 at 1:41 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: So keep out Arab Muslim and Christian refugees from Syria; but allow Kurds and ethnic Armenians from Syria in?
What are you talking about? I dont even know who Kurds and Armenians are.
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RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
December 5, 2016 at 1:49 pm
Ridiculous.
History has countless examples of the movements of significant numbers of people from one country to the next, and somehow the human race endured. America itself was literally founded by religious immigrants who were seeking a new life away from oppression.
The world is much smaller than we like to admit. And the thought that a government can agree to bomb the shit out of a country, and then refuse to accept the inevitable flow of people looking to escape said bombing of said country, disgusts me to my core.
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RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
December 5, 2016 at 1:52 pm
(December 5, 2016 at 1:36 pm)Macoleco Wrote: I know, every life important. Helping refugees is okay, too. But letting them enter your country is another thing.
First of all, let me be more objective from a political perspective: letting refugees in means putting your own people in danger. And we all know the many accidents that have occured in countries like Germany and Switzerland. If you as a government let refugees in and they hurt civilians, it is your responsability.
Now, to my personal point of view: religion. These refugees have strong religious beliefs, and if you let them in, their religion will start to spread. They will start building churches and mosques. And this, in the long run, will hurt society, the world, a lot more than letting some people die. Yes, even children.
If I was the president of a country, I would send food, water, clothes, etc to help the refugees. But I would never let them in my country. I am the president of MY country, not of the world. What happens to Syria isnt my problem.
What do you think?
I don't think the awful events occured because they were refugees, it was because they were really shitty and evil people, and there are many non-refugees that are the same. Not letting thousands of people in to a safe country because a minority did bad stuff doesn't seem good to me. What about the ones who do good for society?
They can't really start building mosques and churches like that, and that part can be heavily restricted.
Your food and water helps, but it won't really protect them against bullets and missiles.
What seriously icks me are the refugees that don't respect our cultures and boundaries, however there are non-refugees that don't either. However it's a bit worse imo when some newcomers from a shitty country where they had shit lives go to a nice and good country only to make things worse. I've had some in my school that have barely been here a year and they fight teachers and others. It's as much as a problem when a non refugee does so too but it's a bit harder to appreciate something that you've had your whole life, which makes me think how some people can't appreciate the most appreciable things.
I have a feeling my last paragraph will trigger some sparks, but those are my thoughts on the matter and I'm willing to apologise if I'm wrong.
Edit: Want to add regarding the 3rd paragraph; it was a bit off the topic, but some bad apples don't change my stance on the matter, we should still definitely let people from countries in war flee and live along with us.
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RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
December 5, 2016 at 1:57 pm
If what happens in Syria isn't your problem, why would you send them food and water?
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RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
December 5, 2016 at 2:05 pm
I often think what would happen if there was a total breakdown of civil order in the UK, or a civil war. People think it could never happen. They're hilarious.
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RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
December 5, 2016 at 2:10 pm
(December 5, 2016 at 1:45 pm)Macoleco Wrote: (December 5, 2016 at 1:41 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: So keep out Arab Muslim and Christian refugees from Syria; but allow Kurds and ethnic Armenians from Syria in?
What are you talking about? I dont even know who Kurds and Armenians are.
But you're fine with waxing on about the goings on in the Middle East.
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RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
December 5, 2016 at 2:16 pm
The world works because humans move from one place to another. If your country permanently closed it's borders, not only will your economy dwindle but your society would suffocate. Refugees are people too, just moving from one place to another. If you don't wanna feel scared, treat them like humans, share your culture with them and assimilate them in your society.
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RE: My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees
December 5, 2016 at 2:16 pm
(December 5, 2016 at 1:57 pm)Faith No More Wrote: If what happens in Syria isn't your problem, why would you send them food and water?
I would help them but not let them in
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