My (probably unpopular) opinion on arab refugees

[Amarok]

Didnt you guys the part where I said that I havent read his posts? I just saw many people attacking him just because he calls himself a sociopath.

then shut up about it

[Catholic_Lady]

Didnt you guys the part where I said that I havent read his posts? I just saw many people attacking him just because he calls himself a sociopath.

I didn't mean to attack him, and backed off once I realized he was socio. I don't know how to argue the morality of something without either bringing empathy or God into the picture. Neither of which apply to him.

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If that's the case, I can't really make the argument that morality is objective without bringing God into the picture. So I'll leave it to others to debate his argument in a secular/philosophical way.

You could pretend.  What do you think a world without God would look like?

I have 0 idea.

[henryp]

Sociopaths can be whiny bitches like anyone else, that's not their problem, their problem is in connecting those whiny feelings within with the whiny feelings of others and forming a common basis of emotional response and suitable behaviors.



Our friend here probably isn't a sociopath in any case.  Just a run of the mill dick (in good company there, lol) who finds the term "sociopath" to be an edgier and more acceptable alternative, lol.  

I like to think I'm a much better dick than run of the mill.

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CL expressed sympathy.  You say I have bad wiring.  Because with all that empathy, you can't imagine any other way of viewing the world being happy or good.

You say you're a sociopath. If you're being truthful, that's a brain problem. I sympathize (which is not the same thing as empathize), and I guess I held a stereotype that sociopaths don't have touchy feelers. My apologies for not empathizing with you to your satisfaction. I hope you'll be okay.

No no no.  Neurodiversity.  Stop being a bigot!

[The Grand Nudger]

We all like to think that.  It's never true.  

[Autumnlicious]

Neurodiversity: passing off mental illness on the same level as skin color.

Get bent.

[Catholic_Lady]

Neurodiversity: passing off mental illness on the same level as skin color.

Get bent.

To be fair, people don't choose their mental illness in the same way they don't choose their skin color. 

It's pointless to cast judgement on him on something he has no control over. The important thing is that he recognizes right from wrong and the value of human life, despite not feeling empathy. If he can do that, then I have no further complaints.

[Amarok]

Sociopaths can be whiny bitches like anyone else, that's not their problem, their problem is in connecting those whiny feelings within with the whiny feelings of others and forming a common basis of emotional response and suitable behaviors.



Our friend here probably isn't a sociopath in any case.  Just a run of the mill dick (in good company there, lol) who finds the term "sociopath" to be an edgier and more acceptable alternative, lol.  

I like to think I'm a much better dick than run of the mill.

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You say you're a sociopath. If you're being truthful, that's a brain problem. I sympathize (which is not the same thing as empathize), and I guess I held a stereotype that sociopaths don't have touchy feelers. My apologies for not empathizing with you to your satisfaction. I hope you'll be okay.

No no no.  Neurodiversity.  Stop being a bigot!

stating a fact relevant to the point of this thread  is not bigotry you fool

and once again you tragic sense of humour fails you

[Aristocatt]

Why do you guys assume sociopaths don't have an empathy switch?
Lots of psychopaths of various stripes have been shown to both have mirror neurons, and that those neurons can go off when people are explicitly asked to put themselves in the shoes of another.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-23431793

Psychopathy is complicated. There is a very good chance that there is more to this than just "moral subjectivist doesn't empathize".
Either way, it's not really pertinent. Empathy or not, shrugging your shoulders at the issue this thread is addressing because "moral subjectivity" is a low hanging fruit.

[The Grand Nudger]

Because it's definitional to the diagnosis (insomuch as there is one...there is no specific diagnosis for either...they simply fall along a broad category of other disorders)........lol?  

Psycopaths and sociopaths are not the same thing. A swing and a miss. Probably an honest mistake, though, thanks for the link...good stuff.

[Amarok]

Why do you guys assume sociopaths don't have an empathy switch?
Lots of psychopaths of various stripes have been shown to both have mirror neurons, and that those neurons can go off when people are explicitly asked to put themselves in the shoes of another.
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-23431793

Psychopathy is complicated.  There is a very good chance that there is more to this than just "moral subjectivist doesn't empathize".
Either way, it's not really pertinent.  Empathy or not, shrugging your shoulders at the issue this thread is addressing because "moral subjectivity" is a low hanging fruit.

1.it's his words not ours

2. no it's not it's the central issue

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Because it's definitional to the diagnosis........lol?  

Psycopaths and sociopaths are not the same thing.  A swing and a miss.  Probably an honest mistake, though, thanks for the link...good stuff.

I know