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RE: [split] The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
December 5, 2016 at 9:17 pm
(December 5, 2016 at 11:48 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote:
(December 5, 2016 at 5:01 am)Nymphadora Wrote: [...]
And it relates to what I was saying elsewhere. Essentially, no one can say anything unless its good.
This is such utter bullshit. I have never said that people can't agree with me or only have to say nice things. It's fine for people to disagree with me. It's fine for them to think what I'm saying is bullshit. It's fine for me to think what they're saying is bullshit.
Quote:Constructive criticism gets taken the wrong way and then we're left with all this over analyzing of things and (for lack of a better way of saying it), we are made responsible for the feelings of others.
Taken the wrong way? Basically if I don't agree with your criticism then you label me as not liking criticism. It's horseshit. I openly encourage both agreement and disagreement. All I want is honest expression.
You mistake my disagreement as me saying "don't disagree with me" and my disagreement with your criticism as me saying "don't criticize me". It's such horseshit because I've never told anyone that they have to agree with me or they shouldn't criticize me. I am not responsible for your incorrectly thinking that I'm saying that when I categorically haven't said that anywhere and in fact I'm saying the exact opposite like I am now. It's like the bullshit about me guilt-tripping you merely because I expressed how I felt.
In fact ironically, it's the exact opposite. We can't disagree without you labelling me as having a problem with disagreement. I have to agree with your criticism or you say I can't handle it. It's always the case of the other fucker projecting onto me their own inability to handle my stubborn disagreement or rejection of criticism. Guess what... no one has to agree with each other's opinions or criticism and it doesn't matter how often it doesn't mean the person has a problem with disagreement merely because they don't agree. In fact, it's the person who wrongly labels people who don't agree with criticism as unable to handle it that has a problem with disagreement and can't handle it.
Quote: No. We aren't. I can't make anyone else feel a certain way.
...and yet you say I'm 'guilt-tripping' you and playing the martyr and the victim merely when I express my own feelings. Ironic.
Quote: If my words want to be taken out of context, That's on the reader. I shouldn't have to spend pages explaining or apologizing for what I said when its clear from the get go, what was meant.
Out of context my ass. I can't express how I feel without you labelling like I'm guilt-tripping you or I'm playing the victim or I'm being childish. You claim that I can't handle any constructive criticism when I've never ever said I can't handle it or that I don't want it. All I do is disagree with it. It's so fucking self-serving to act like I can't handle something merely because I don't agree with it. It's obviously you who has a problem with disagreement because merely by my disagreeing with your criticism you label me as not being able to handle it. Such utter bullshit.
You'll probably act like me saying "bullshit" or seeming irrate means I couldn't handle this criticism from you either. Guess what? You can say what I think is bullshit too and that's fine. That's the point. We're allowed to disagree. It's really really silly for you to say I don't want disagreement or criticism when I say the exact opposite and you're interpreting it that way merely because I don't agree with you which is incredibly ironic.
What I don't like is being misrepresented and wrongly accused. You're the one who can't handle disagreement because you say I can't handle what you're saying merely because I disagree with you.
Fuck knows how poorly you'll handle my criticism of you when you can't even handle the fact I disagree with yours.
Quote:I am only responsible for what I say, not what others choose to understand.
Yes.
The point is... you offer criticism. I disagree with it. I get told I can't handle it. It's extremely ironic because you just can't handle that I don't agree with it. Guess what, it's fine if we disagree and don't accept each other's criticism.
It's hilariously ironic projection that if I don't agree with criticism then I have a problem with disagreement LOL. You're basically saying unless I agree with you then I have a problem with anyone who disagrees with me...LOL. You're the one who has a problem with my not agreeing with your criticism. Guess what? I don't have to agree with you. Nor do you with me. In fact, you can disagree with me that it's true that you are the one who has a problem with disagreement. But it's patently obvious what the facts are. When I'm outright saying I'm fine with it and you're basing my having a problem with criticism on the fact I don't agree with it then that demonstrates that you're the one who has a problem with disagreement because you're saying I have a problem with it merely because I don't agree with you.
So... you make no sense.
I'll just say that I've been at school all day and this is the first chance I've had to respond. I won't bother with displaying your response, hence the hide tags.
I simply agreed with Shell, reiterated my own points about the posts I have seen, kept it short and to the point and your response is to dish out an angry wall of hate, telling me how full of shit I am among other things?
Well thank you so much for proving my point for me. I absolutely love the double standards you've set. Do you even bother reading the shit you type before hitting send, or are you just that fucking special that you think your feelings are more important than the word salad you hand out to those who don't see eye to eye with you?
You say I'm full of shit, then have the sheer gall to tell me my opinions and observations are "utter bullshit", accuse me of practically invalidating your thoughts and feelings, yet that is exactly what you did to me!
You have gone on and on and on and on about how you can handle honesty and it's what you want from others. Apparently not. The post contained in hide tags is precisely why, on numerous occasions, I have had to bite my tongue and refrain from commenting, because god forbid something be said that doesn't fall in line with your views. Proof is in the fact that this thread had to be split and another thread had to be closed because of your inability to let shit go. You don't want honesty. You don't want discussion. You want everything sugarcoated so your precious little feelings don't get hurt all the while, you want to be able to say whatever the fuck you want, without anyone else objecting or disagreeing with you.
JFC. If you can dish it out, then you sure as hell should be adult enough to be able to take it when it gets served right back at you without resorting to making dozens of posts across other threads about how your feelings are hurt. Was this harsh? Hell no and at this point, I don't fucking care if you think it is. It pales in comparison to the shit you threw at me.
If I've learned anything from what happened to me a month or so ago, it's that people are going to say whatever the hell they want to say here. And I needed to be okay with that because that particular person isn't in charge of my life. I am. No one else but me can make me feel a certain way and I needed to own that and just let that shit go. And that is the difference between you and me. You can't let shit go. I can. And have. You dont see me even so much as responding to the person i had issues with. I simply avoid their posts and go on with my day. You like to just keep poking the sleeping bear until it's had just enough to let you have it, then you wanna start in with all sorts of excuses for why you say the things you do, all the while seeking validation and reassurance from whomever will give it to you.
If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the fucking porch with the pups. This is a god damned internet forum where people are free to say what they please without having to endure endless posts of attention seeking behavior from someone who is supposed to be an adult. And I'm tired of having to choose my words carefully for you so that you don't start playing the 'woe is me' game. Get help.
You wanted honest expression. There you fucking go.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand.
(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work. If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now. Yes, I DO want fries with that.
[split] The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
December 5, 2016 at 10:02 pm
Yikes... *slowly backs out of thread*
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RE: [split] The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
December 6, 2016 at 10:50 am
Nymphadora, it should be said that you've done a damn good job of just ignoring Drich and not letting your sour interaction with Drich define your time here. I'm glad you were able to see the forest for the trees and not let a few horrible comments bring you down.
RE: [split] The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
December 6, 2016 at 1:47 pm
(December 6, 2016 at 10:50 am)Shell B Wrote: Nymphadora, it should be said that you've done a damn good job of just ignoring Drich and not letting your sour interaction with Drich define your time here. I'm glad you were able to see the forest for the trees and not let a few horrible comments bring you down.
Thank you Shell. I definitely had a growing up moment with that. Admittedly, it wasn't easy, but now that I've overcome that, I am grateful to everyone involved who gave me a dose of reality. At times things were said that I did not want to hear, but you know, I needed to hear them. It was a big lesson and it just goes to show that people cared enough to show me I needed to just get past it, move on and not stoop to his level of low.
It was such a freeing moment to finally get it.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand.
(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work. If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now. Yes, I DO want fries with that.
RE: [split] The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
December 6, 2016 at 2:25 pm
(December 6, 2016 at 1:47 pm)Nymphadora Wrote:
(December 6, 2016 at 10:50 am)Shell B Wrote: Nymphadora, it should be said that you've done a damn good job of just ignoring Drich and not letting your sour interaction with Drich define your time here. I'm glad you were able to see the forest for the trees and not let a few horrible comments bring you down.
Thank you Shell. I definitely had a growing up moment with that. Admittedly, it wasn't easy, but now that I've overcome that, I am grateful to everyone involved who gave me a dose of reality. At times things were said that I did not want to hear, but you know, I needed to hear them. It was a big lesson and it just goes to show that people cared enough to show me I needed to just get past it, move on and not stoop to his level of low.
It was such a freeing moment to finally get it.
I'll grant you that I'm not the politest person in the world, so if I ever say anything that crosses a line, take it with a grain of salt. I was raised by truckers and sailors. Not literally, of course. I was actually raised by an alcoholic and a gunsmith, which is essentially the same thing.
RE: [split] The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
December 6, 2016 at 3:56 pm
Care to share the link? I ran into Drich (actually he's why I made an account of my own) a long, long time ago and had just about what sounds like the same experiemce! It helped me push off from the wall and swim free! For that to him I'm kinda grateful? It still doesn't mea however that I won't call him on his bullshit! Where was this?? *rawr momma bunny
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
RE: [split] The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
December 6, 2016 at 9:27 pm
I've discovered (but there are exceptions) that most people want to just vent and 'be heard,' and don't really want advice. I've spent time giving people heartfelt advice, and they don't care. There's no thank you for it, which is fine...no one needs to thank someone, but it's ironic that the very same people who complain that people treat them poorly, treat others the same way that they hate. They use them and treat them with no respect...but they want all the respect.
RE: [split] The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
December 6, 2016 at 11:12 pm
(December 6, 2016 at 3:56 pm)Luckie Wrote: Care to share the link? I ran into Drich (actually he's why I made an account of my own) a long, long time ago and had just about what sounds like the same experiemce! It helped me push off from the wall and swim free! For that to him I'm kinda grateful? It still doesn't mea however that I won't call him on his bullshit! Where was this?? *rawr momma bunny
If someone else wants to, they can. For me personally, I'd rather not drag it all up again. Especially since I've worked really hard at putting it behind me.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand.
(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work. If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now. Yes, I DO want fries with that.
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