Why there must be a God

[Entropist]

It really is not complicated, hidden or strange at all. You merely need to think sensibly and everything becomes clear. If you want to dispute anything in this article please address the specific points I have made with science, logic and reasoning. If you cannot, then that clearly shows your views on life are devoid of any intellect, logic etc

I'm convinced... uh, oh, which god? Shit.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

You haven't even come close, padraic. You just think you have.

Poor choice of words: I meant MEMBERS of the lunatic fringe.The more extreme element includes people like Glen Beck,Sarah Palin,Fred Phelps,diverse mad mullas and suicide bombers.

I was brought up and educated (if you'll forgive the expression) a rabid Irish Catholic. After 40 years in recovery there are still some vestigal remains. EG an irritating and inconvenient Catholic conscience and some attitudes. I've always considered evangelicals and literalists as the lunatic fringe of Christendom. This is a common Catholic view, held without a whiff of irony.

[Entropist]

I've always considered evangelicals and literalists as the lunatic fringe of Christendom.

Also known today as "American-style Christianity."

[Minimalist]

I'm absolutely baffled as to how atheists do not accept the existence of a creator and can only imagine there views are based on stupidity, illogical and incorrect application of science rather then intellect, logic, science etc.

Well, no other theist has presented any "evidence" of his or her particular sky-daddy. I doubt that you will be any different but by all means, let's hear what you've got.


( P.S. - if all you have is the fucking koran, don't waste our time. )

[leo-rcc]

Good question, maybe some pastafarians would be nice. haha

OI!

btw: @op: Egg came first.

[Zen Badger]

It really is not complicated, hidden or strange at all. You merely need to think sensibly and everything becomes clear. If you want to dispute anything in this article please address the specific points I have made with science, logic and reasoning. If you cannot, then that clearly shows your views on life are devoid of any intellect, logic etc

It actually shows that I can't be bothered responding to your inane bullshit.

But hey, you knock yourself out there buddy.

[Skipper]

Nothing in existence creates itself or exists by its own accord.

I love that one. It applies to everything....except your god yes? Hilarious.

Why when your understanding of the universe and it's origins hits a brick wall do you invent an even more complex explanation for it's existence? An all knowing, all powerful, concious creator would had to have been an infinity more complex than the universe it created.

Now I don't rule out a force beyond what we currently understand being behind what brought the universe into existence, but the idea that there is intelligent design behind it is a ludicrous one, with zero evidence and only believed by those who take writings from thousands of years ago from humans with much less knowledge and understanding than we have today as proof of god's existence despite also claiming God is beyond scientific or human comprehension.

You Sir, are deluded!

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

ThinkingMan Wrote:
Nothing in existence creates itself or exists by its own accord.

Funny you should say that. According to Stephen Hawking's latest book,it actually does. The argument has been around for at least 30 years of which I'm aware. I first came across it in the early 1970's in a book called "Evidence And Inference".(philosophy,not physics)

IF you argue nothing comes into existence of its own accord,you may not then argue an uncreated God. That's a logical fallacy called 'special pleading'


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Special pleading is a form of spurious argumentation where a position in a dispute introduces favorable details or excludes unfavorable details by alleging a need to apply additional considerations without proper criticism of these considerations themselves. Essentially, this involves someone attempting to cite something as an exemption to a generally accepted rule, principle, etc. without justifying the exemption.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_pleading

[DeistPaladin]

You're new at this aren't you?

Why is it we seem to attract mainly the lunatic fringe of both Christianity and Islam?

Good question, maybe some pastafarians would be nice.

Maybe a Scientologist. in the mean time...

[Roleplaying/]

I'm absolutely baffled as to how axenuists do not accept the existence of the intergalactic dictator Xenu and can only imagine there views are based on stupidity, illogical and incorrect application of science rather then intellect, logic, science etc. ...

[/Roleplaying]

[everythingafter]

I'm absolutely baffled as to how atheists do not accept the existence of a creator and can only imagine there views are based on stupidity, illogical and incorrect application of science rather then intellect, logic, science etc.

It's "their." And that's all here that deserves a response.