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Moral Acts
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Moral Acts
Name one moral act that can not be accomplished without religion.
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RE: Moral Acts
Can't be done. Exactly your point.

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#3
RE: Moral Acts
Guilt free masturbation?
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RE: Moral Acts
(10th January 2017, 08:37)chimp3 Wrote: Name one moral act that can not be accomplished without religion.

I agree (mostly anyway),   but that isn't what the argument is!
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RE: Moral Acts
(10th January 2017, 08:37)chimp3 Wrote: Name one moral act that can not be accomplished without religion.

Honor killings?
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RE: Moral Acts
The problem is defining what morality means in the first place. Religion muddies the waters by introducing the likes and dislikes of some voyeur.

Certainly religion is not required to be caring towards others, in any shape or form.
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RE: Moral Acts
(10th January 2017, 09:03)mh.brewer Wrote: Guilt free masturbation?
you got that backwards lol
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#8
RE: Moral Acts
Once heard someone say in response to Hitch that he felt praying for his children was a moral action.

That's the only answer I ever heard
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RE: Moral Acts
You cannot sacrifice your annoying neighbors - a moral act if ever there was one - to Jesus without religion.

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'There are people who long for immortality in the afterlife who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.' - Isaac Asimov
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RE: Moral Acts
I think the argument from the other side is more along the lines of, "you can act moral but you can't actually be moral without religion." If you don't believe in God, then the religious will question your motivations, since any proper God-fearing citizen has that to motivate them to do good. Atheists don't have a standard to be judged by. But there's no specific thing you can't do without religion; it's all about intention and motivation.

I disagree with all that, obviously. And I think doing good or just or moral acts for their own merit should hold more water than doing it because you think God wants you to. The latter seems almost selfish to me... only helping others to secure good graces wit the Big Guy.
"When life begins, we are tender and weak.
When life ends, we are stiff and rigid.
All things, including the grass and the trees,
Are soft and pliable in life, dry and brittle in death.
So the soft and supple are the companions of life,
Whilst the stiff and unyielding are the companions of death.
An army that cannot yield will be defeated.
A tree that cannot bend will crack in the wind.
Thus, by nature's own decree,
The hard and strong are defeated,
Whilst the soft and gentle are triumphant."
                                                           
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