Serious Problems with Atheism

[Minimalist]

Your fucking gospel - there is only one, btw - the other three are two fanfics and a re-write of the original have been shown to be allegorical at best and more likely simply made up.

Claiming any sort of 'fact' from them is the height of chutzpah but you are given every opportunity to do so.  So why don't you get on with it if you can?  My guess is that you are simply a bible thumper from fucking Mississippi who oh-so-desperately wants to think that your horseshit is true.

Put up or shut up pal.  Provide actual evidence that your fairy tales are true or don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Are you saying the thing with the zombies roaming the streets of J-town didn't happen??!

Pretty much.

Unless.......

[The Valkyrie]

If they ever ask, I will nominate you for head of local tourism.

Please don't.

I second the nomination.

[Cyberman]

Are you saying the thing with the zombies roaming the streets of J-town didn't happen??!

Pretty much.

Unless.......

One of my earlier efforts:

[Cyberman]

Please don't.

I second the nomination.

Bully

[Astreja]

1)    R. Dawkins wrote the Universe has "no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference." Dawkins, R., River out of Eden, Weidenfeld & Nicholson, London, p. 133, 1995.
        Why do atheists constantly use words like religion is evil, atheism good, when these terms are meaningless in a Godless Universe?

Because it is perfectly all right for people to make value judgements.  All value is subjective and need not ground itself in anything other than personal opinion.

2) If you were really an atheist, you would realize that we are ALL just rearranged pond scum and life is just a set of random Meaningless events in a random Meaningless Universe. 
    So as an atheist, why try so hard "Meaningfully" explaining  that in this utterly Meaningless Universe there's no deity?

Because I don't see any credible evidence at all for deities.  Not hard at all to point that out, actually.

 a) Possible responses maybe; Religion is dangerous and threatens our survival; BUT in a Godless Universe, why is humanity's survival better than extinction? If humans nuke one another out of existence, what difference will that make to the Universe??

Because I *like* survival.  I enjoy being alive.  I don't give a rat's ass about meaning outside Myself.

3) Atheism; The Universe Caused itself, no First Cause needed; this requires blind faith and is counter-intuitive; very much the same as what atheists accuse religious people of, seems hypocritical doesn't it??

Not nearly as hypocritical as claiming a First Cause and then exempting your imaginary friend from having a cause.

4) The Big Bang Theory is Full of Fudge factors that are an embarrassment to Cosmologists many of whom admit the theory is popular because it is well funded, but how is that an objective search for truth?

Citation needed.

 5)   Atheistic science these days is so Dogmatically wedded to Materialism, it cannot even begin to tell us what Consciousness is, the most basic principle of human existence. Doesn't it seem hypocritical that Atheism is so dogmatic?

There's nothing dogmatic about calling stupid beliefs stupid beliefs.  Oh, and consciousness is an effect of the material brain.  I believe that it is literally impossible for consciousness to endure without a functioning body, and that life after death is a particularly silly idea.

 6)  And BTW atheism has led to some pretty strange philosophies, like that of the Church of Euthanasia; Save the Planet, Kill Yourself! How can Atheists counter such "logic"?

I don't have to counter it.  I ignore it, as I don't belong to that particular cult.  I'm a humanist.

As a Christian I have experienced that no Atheist on earth has any convincing arguments to these most basic questions which I believe only the Christian religion can answer. I'll be honest, believing in Atheism would be so much easier in life because you can do whatever you want and think there is no consequences, but Ahteism seems so incredibly counter intuitive, that to even begin to take it seriously, one has to suspend all logic.

Thoughts?

I think Christianity is vile and that it's a particularly bad place to look for answers.  Essentially you're in a human sacrifice cult that thinks it's a jolly good idea to let someone die in your place for merely being human, and you also seem to be fine with the idea of infinite punishment for finite crimes.  That is seriously twisted and evil.  There is *nothing* of any value in Christianity that cannot be found elsewhere in a more benign and useful form.

(Again please keep it friendly, Ive had too much abuse from atheists already just for asking simple questions..., and that just seems further proof to me Atheism is a delusion).

Oh, you've fucking earned  that abuse.  You want friendly?  Try being friendly, rather than tossing words like "delusion" in the faces of people you don't even know.

[Mr Greene]

Quote-mining newspapers and magazines from 20 years ago... 
You never even saw the originals did you?
It never even crossed your mind to check the honesty of the source that actually provided the quotes.
You may wish to consider that, or try to brush the whole thing under the carpet and pretend you caught pedalling someone else's dishonesty.

[Pulse]

1)    R. Dawkins wrote the Universe has "no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference." Dawkins, R., River out of Eden, Weidenfeld & Nicholson, London, p. 133, 1995.
        Why do atheists constantly use words like religion is evil, atheism good, when these terms are meaningless in a Godless Universe?

Because it is perfectly all right for people to make value judgements.  All value is subjective and need not ground itself in anything other than personal opinion.

2) If you were really an atheist, you would realize that we are ALL just rearranged pond scum and life is just a set of random Meaningless events in a random Meaningless Universe. 
    So as an atheist, why try so hard "Meaningfully" explaining  that in this utterly Meaningless Universe there's no deity?

Because I don't see any credible evidence at all for deities.  Not hard at all to point that out, actually.

 a) Possible responses maybe; Religion is dangerous and threatens our survival; BUT in a Godless Universe, why is humanity's survival better than extinction? If humans nuke one another out of existence, what difference will that make to the Universe??

Because I *like* survival.  I enjoy being alive.  I don't give a rat's ass about meaning outside Myself.

3) Atheism; The Universe Caused itself, no First Cause needed; this requires blind faith and is counter-intuitive; very much the same as what atheists accuse religious people of, seems hypocritical doesn't it??

Not nearly as hypocritical as claiming a First Cause and then exempting your imaginary friend from having a cause.

4) The Big Bang Theory is Full of Fudge factors that are an embarrassment to Cosmologists many of whom admit the theory is popular because it is well funded, but how is that an objective search for truth?

Citation needed.

 5)   Atheistic science these days is so Dogmatically wedded to Materialism, it cannot even begin to tell us what Consciousness is, the most basic principle of human existence. Doesn't it seem hypocritical that Atheism is so dogmatic?

There's nothing dogmatic about calling stupid beliefs stupid beliefs.  Oh, and consciousness is an effect of the material brain.  I believe that it is literally impossible for consciousness to endure without a functioning body, and that life after death is a particularly silly idea.

 6)  And BTW atheism has led to some pretty strange philosophies, like that of the Church of Euthanasia; Save the Planet, Kill Yourself! How can Atheists counter such "logic"?

I don't have to counter it.  I ignore it, as I don't belong to that particular cult.  I'm a humanist.

As a Christian I have experienced that no Atheist on earth has any convincing arguments to these most basic questions which I believe only the Christian religion can answer. I'll be honest, believing in Atheism would be so much easier in life because you can do whatever you want and think there is no consequences, but Ahteism seems so incredibly counter intuitive, that to even begin to take it seriously, one has to suspend all logic.

Thoughts?

I think Christianity is vile and that it's a particularly bad place to look for answers.  Essentially you're in a human sacrifice cult that thinks it's a jolly good idea to let someone die in your place for merely being human, and you also seem to be fine with the idea of infinite punishment for finite crimes.  That is seriously twisted and evil.  There is *nothing* of any value in Christianity that cannot be found elsewhere in a more benign and useful form.

(Again please keep it friendly, Ive had too much abuse from atheists already just for asking simple questions..., and that just seems further proof to me Atheism is a delusion).

Oh, you've fucking earned  that abuse.  You want friendly?  Try being friendly, rather than tossing words like "delusion" in the faces of people you don't even know.

The citation for the BBT dissenters, simply Google Big Bang Theory Busted By 33 Top Scientists. Your other rebuttals are simply personal opinions which are completely subjective.

And using the word "Delusion" is not allowed because its rude? Please ask Dawkins not to use it in the title of his book. I am sure your response will justify him in your subjective opinion.

[pocaracas]

Still waiting for a comment on this:

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I explained why I believe what I believe, and copiously quote scientists, including a neurosurgeon, and even atheists themselves to prove that Materialistic Atheism is on shaky foundations which makes Theism more plausible, Science is based on preconceived Ideas, on funding the Scientific Dogmas endlessly and not letting "a Divine foot in the Door" , I am suggesting that's an insincere search for Truth. 

No you didn't explain what I asked you to explain.
None of your lot ever do.
Read carefully what I write. English is not my first language, but I do try to write things as accurately as possible.

I asked you to think back on your whole existence and analyze how you came to believe in what you believe.
I didn't ask for the arguments that you later came to find that support your pre-existing belief and are now trying to pass on as if they are the basis for your belief.
I'm asking you to honestly look into yourself, your past, your growth, and understand the genesis for belief within you.

Also, not believing fairy tales told by people is operating on a shaky foundation?! REALLY?!
I think you have that backwards.
Preconceived ideas IS the foundation of all religions. Science relies on very few of those to build up the whole edifice.
An insincere search for Truth is one that starts off with the conclusion and then works its way there - the hallmark of all religious belief.
Haven't you ever heard the saying about throwing rocks at your neighbors when you have a glass roof?

Truth, being an accurate description of Reality, is the utmost concern of Science.
Certainly, it's not a complete edifice. It may have some wrong parts.
It's based on what we can all sense.
[hypothetical scenario] If all of civilization were to be lost, science could be rebuilt from scratch. Religion, if any would develop (and it would most likely develop), would be different  - think about why that is (maybe it has to do with the underlined word above).

Please see; "Dogmatism in Science and Medicine: How Dominant Theories Monopolize Research and Stifle the Search for Truth" by Henry H. Bauer.

I'll quote another scientist, so its obvious my concerns are shared by other scientists;

“People need to be aware that there is a range of models that

could explain the observations” Ellis argues. “For instance, I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its
centre, and you cannot disprove it based on observations.” Ellis has published a paper on this. “You can only exclude it on philosophical
grounds. In my view there is absolutely nothing wrong in that.
What I want to bring into the open is the fact that we are using philosophical criteria in choosing our models. A lot of cosmology
tries to hide that.” (Emphasis mine) Gibbs, W.W., Profile: George F.R. Ellis; Thinking Globally, Acting Universally, Scientific
American 273(4):50–55, 1995.

A Mathematician commenting on cosmology... again, a fallacy...
But let's address the problem: you can, if you so wish, to claim that the Earth stands at the center of the Universe and nothing in Cosmology will go against that. Right?
But Cosmology goes a bit beyond that remark, doesn't it? Or don't you know? Are you just parroting certain quotes that were given to you by someone else? Someone, maybe, with an agenda?
Anyway, what Cosmology claims is that any place in the Universe can be considered the center and everything we can observe remains the same, regardless of where you place this center. Everywhere is the center. Which just makes this mathematician's quote seem unimportant, useless... worthy of a good old-fashioned eye-roll and a DUH!

But it does raise the question: why did you think it was relevant?
As far as I can tell, the best answer to this question is that you are ignorant of actual science.
If you are ignorant of science, then you are in no position to attack it.
That you do attempt to attack it is a symptom of something else.... something that is what rubs people the wrong way and makes them  respond to you aggressively, derisively, mockingly.

That said, do try to rationally analyze your own belief. Not the reasons that have come to pseudo-support your belief. The actual origin of your belief. Not the origin of the religion you follow... that's for later... first, the origin of your own mind's belief.

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[robvalue]

I get the feeling some people have never properly thought about why they believe as they do.

[brewer]