Guys do you believe Howard Storm's NDE?

[Cyberman]

From here any demented idiot would understand that the consciousness is the real you rather than
your body-brain and if you are able to experience an NDE when your brain is 100% off then you know that you are immortal.

A demented idiot does.

(You're making this way too easy.)

[Catholic_Lady]

He became a minister, not a priest.

I don't think he's lying and completely making up the whole thing. I think he did go through something that made him entirely change his views on the world. Whether or not that "something" was a supernatural occurrence or just all completely inside his head, I don't know. But I'd assume probably the latter.

[ignoramus]

But you never know!

[Little Rik]

From here any demented idiot would understand that the consciousness is the real you rather than
your body-brain and if you are able to experience an NDE when your brain is 100% off then you know that you are immortal.

Pam Reynolds' brain wasn't "100% off" when she had her NDE, moron.

https://infidels.org/library/modern/keit...s.html#pam

Tons and tons of guessing from some people who think that physical science is able to understand
what is behind physical science.  

Been there done that yog.  
Nothing new.  

[Angrboda]

Pam Reynolds' brain wasn't "100% off" when she had her NDE, moron.

https://infidels.org/library/modern/keit...s.html#pam

Tons and tons of guessing from some people who think that physical science is able to understand
what is behind physical science.  

Been there done that yog.  
Nothing new.  

Liar. You didn't know that Pam Reynolds' NDE occurred when her brain was fully functional. You're just making excuses.

No, not guessing. Her NDE could be correlated to events in the operating room. That's not guessing. That's relying on facts.

It's nothing new to you because you always dismiss anything that runs counter to your fairy tale. You're just being contrary without a reason.

Neither Pam Reynolds nor Howard Storm had brains that were completely shut down. You're the one that's left guessing.

NDEs could occur in any of four times:
1. before the cardiac arrest or other event
2. during cardiac arrest when the brain is supposedly "100% off"
3. after restoration of blood flow but before becoming conscious
4. in the time after the near death emergency

You're claiming that an NDE occurred at #2. Do you have any evidence of such an NDE occurring at that time?

You can't show me any such evidence because you don't have any such evidence, do you? Your whole case relies on guessing when NDEs occur.

Well guesswork don't count for shit. You've been shown wrong and you still blabber on the same schtick. You're just an irrational crank.

[Pat Mustard]

This is a man who apparently used to be an atheist, but then during his NDE he was tortured in hell until he called out to Jesus. He was a former arts prof so in his NDE he saw 80 new primary colours, and he was able to predict world events in the future. He became a priest afterwards. What do you guys think, assuming he was not lying about his experience?

Are you a sockpuppet of scoobysnack?

[Little Rik]

Tons and tons of guessing from some people who think that physical science is able to understand
what is behind physical science.  

Been there done that yog.  
Nothing new.  

Liar.  You didn't know that Pam Reynolds' NDE occurred when her brain was fully functional.  You're just making excuses.

No, not guessing.  Her NDE could be correlated to events in the operating room.  That's not guessing. That's relying on facts.

It's nothing new to you because you always dismiss anything that runs counter to your fairy tale.  You're just being contrary without a reason.

Neither Pam Reynolds nor Howard Storm had brains that were completely shut down.  You're the one that's left guessing.

NDEs could occur in any of four times:
1. before the cardiac arrest or other event
2. during cardiac arrest when the brain is supposedly "100% off"
3. after restoration of blood flow but before becoming conscious
4. in the time after the near death emergency

You're claiming that an NDE occurred at #2.  Do you have any evidence of such an NDE occurring at that time?  

You can't show me any such evidence because you don't have any such evidence, do you?  Your whole case relies on guessing when NDEs occur.

Well guesswork don't count for shit.  You've been shown wrong and you still blabber on the same schtick. You're just an irrational crank.

Wrong once again yog.  

Your idea that both Storm and Pan Reynolds didn't have their brains completely shut down during their NDE is just one more load of bull.
When the consciousness take over and give an NDE it does so because the brain is off otherwise it could not do so.
Your brain can not possibly be able to go over her border of limitations and give you something that is behind her scope.
The brain is made of matter while the consciousness is something abstract.
You never thought of that yog, did you?  

[Angrboda]

Liar.  You didn't know that Pam Reynolds' NDE occurred when her brain was fully functional.  You're just making excuses.

No, not guessing.  Her NDE could be correlated to events in the operating room.  That's not guessing. That's relying on facts.

It's nothing new to you because you always dismiss anything that runs counter to your fairy tale.  You're just being contrary without a reason.

Neither Pam Reynolds nor Howard Storm had brains that were completely shut down.  You're the one that's left guessing.

NDEs could occur in any of four times:
1. before the cardiac arrest or other event
2. during cardiac arrest when the brain is supposedly "100% off"
3. after restoration of blood flow but before becoming conscious
4. in the time after the near death emergency

You're claiming that an NDE occurred at #2.  Do you have any evidence of such an NDE occurring at that time?  

You can't show me any such evidence because you don't have any such evidence, do you?  Your whole case relies on guessing when NDEs occur.

Well guesswork don't count for shit.  You've been shown wrong and you still blabber on the same schtick. You're just an irrational crank.

Wrong once again yog.  

Your idea that both Storm and Pan Reynolds didn't have their brains completely shut down during their NDE is just one more load of bull.

I documented both cases. Those are the facts. If you can't deal with them, that's on you.

When the consciousness take over and give an NDE it does so because the brain is off otherwise it could not do so.

I also documented the case of OBEs while the person was still conscious, as well as the fact that 1/3 of NDEs occur in people who aren't in life threatening situations. Again, you simply deny the facts.

Your brain can not possibly be able to go over her border of limitations and give you something that is behind her scope.
The brain is made of matter while the consciousness is something abstract.  

And what you don't have is evidence that your assertion is true. It's just something you pulled from your ass.

Since you don't appear to be able to handle facts and reality, there's little point in talking further. You're lost in your own dream world.

You're a sad little man who is so invested in his beliefs he can't acknowledge reality when it's staring him in the face.

[Angrboda]

[robvalue]

Just once I'd like to see some woo apologetics that isn't a steaming pile of shit. Something actually challenging. Be it religion, or any other kind.

But I guess I'm hoping for the impossible. It wouldn't be woo if it could be adequately defended.