Guys do you believe Howard Storm's NDE?

[Little Rik]

[Angrboda]

Prove it.  You don't know that these people would have gone back to being atheist.  You're just asserting it.

I beg your pardon.  
YOU are the one who allege that illusion last therefore YOUare the one who got to prove that illusion last.
Beside even a demented idiot know that illusion do not last.  

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Are you ready to answer about the woman wearing long johns, or are you going to dodge it yet again?

Your memory is getting worse by the day yog.  
Didn't I asked you to give evidence that that OBE was real and not an illusion?
Once you provide evidence that that is real then I will answer you.  

Yeah, dodging the question once again. You're pathetic. "Evidence that the OBE is real" Haha. What a joke.

Well, well yog.  
It seems that you have enough evidence to prove that the karma doesn't exist.
Let us see this evidence yog.  

You're too stupid for words.

Fail once again yog.  
First you behave like a dick that suppose to know everything then when I asked you to give evidence that you are correct you just say.......You're too stupid for words......
What a disaster yog.  

I said you're too stupid for words because only an idiot would believe such a tall tale. And that's the truth. You're just a gullible twat.

[Cyberman]

He's not as retarded as he makes out:

Beside even a demented idiot know that illusion do not last.  

No true idiot drops hints as heavy as this.

[Angrboda]

One guy called Howard Storm ex strong atheist all of a sudden after an NDE experience become a strong theist.
How is that possible?

Since Howard Storm was never near death, he didn't have an NDE. Yet his experience caused profound changes because he thought it was real. I had a hallucination when I was 13. At the time I thought it was real. That hallucination has stayed with me to this day. It isn't necessary for an experience to be real to have lasting effects on a person. Drug experiences have profound effects on the user causing them to go back again and again for the experience. Some illusions / hallucinations have lasting effects. People remember a memorable LSD trip for a lifetime. So your implication that something "must be real" to cause profound changes in the person is simply wrong. Christians and non-believers who attend old time revival meetings have profound experiences which they attribute to Christ, often with lasting effects. You're simply wrong. All it takes is for the person to believe it's real.

Besides, you don't take Howard Storm's account at face value either. He imagined hell which you consider to be an illusory aspect of any NDE, and he converted to Christianity, not your version of God. So apparently you've got your wires crossed. If his experience of God had been "real" why didn't he become a Hindu? So many questions, and you have so few answers. All you can do is repeat the same refuted points.

[Little Rik]

[Angrboda]

[Crossless2.0]

[Angrboda]

Besides, you don't take Howard Storm's account at face value either.  He imagined hell which you consider to be an illusory aspect of any NDE

There is no such a thing as a physical hell.
How could you feel the fire burning if you don't have a body?
The hell is all about a lack of God.
It is a mental suffering and it is not permanent.
As soon as people wake up and grow up the hell vanish like the clouds vanish as the sun and the winds blow them away.  

So the parts that you don't agree with about his NDE are just illusory, the other parts are real. Got it.

[Cyberman]

And what's even sadder is that he dismisses the mundane parts while creaming his frilly knickers over the exciting magic bits. Babyish.

[Little Rik]