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Trum to reintroduce black sites
January 25, 2017 at 1:55 pm
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Curious which European bootlickers will favor the Dump with opening new black sites. Poland and Romania are already on record from the Shrub days. Human rights, my ass. I hope noone has the gall to bring up the tale of the US fighting for a better world anytime soon.
At the same time, the same order shall ban the Red Cross from investigating American prisons anymore and reintroduce the possibiity of enhanced interrogation, aka torture.
Quote:WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is preparing a sweeping executive order that would clear the way for the C.I.A. to reopen overseas “black site” prisons, like those where it detained and tortured terrorism suspects before former President Barack Obama shut them down.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/po...isons.html
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RE: Trum to reintroduce black sites
January 25, 2017 at 2:04 pm
Black sites: Where the United States looks like Stalinist Russia.
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RE: Trum to reintroduce black sites
January 25, 2017 at 7:31 pm
It does feel a lot like living in Germany during the 30s.
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RE: Trum to reintroduce black sites
January 25, 2017 at 7:33 pm
Redundant as long as we have Chicago . . . .
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RE: Trum to reintroduce black sites
January 25, 2017 at 8:53 pm
It's disturbing for sure. There are so many executive orders this week that Trump has signed and I'm not even sure which is the worst but this ranks right up there.
I'd be willing to bet Trump never heard of a black site before this week. It's entirely possible that the Republicans and their lawyers are drafting executive orders to their liking and then telling Trump "sign here". Doesn't make what he's doing any less reprehensible though.
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RE: Trum to reintroduce black sites
January 25, 2017 at 9:00 pm
(January 25, 2017 at 8:53 pm)Tres Leches Wrote: I'd be willing to bet Trump never heard of a black site before this week. It's entirely possible that the Republicans and their lawyers are drafting executive orders to their liking and then telling Trump "sign here". Doesn't make what he's doing any less reprehensible though.
That's right up his alley, so I'm sure he knows exactly what he's doing here. No encouragment needed.
I can only repeat what I always say. Take him at his word. He will do what he said to do. Reintroducing torture - even if it doesn't work, in his own words. Killing the families of terrorists - or suspected terrorists - may come next.
Take him at his word, and you won't be surprised by the depravity. I know I'm always arguing against comparing him to Hitler, but what you said there begs a comparison. There was a standard phrase in Hitler's Germany: If only the Führer knew. Well, he knew, and Trump knows. He's not a puppet, since he's not Shrub. Shrub was a simpleton, easily manipulated, this one is a strong willed primitive.
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RE: Trum to reintroduce black sites
January 25, 2017 at 9:41 pm
(January 25, 2017 at 9:00 pm)abaris Wrote: (January 25, 2017 at 8:53 pm)Tres Leches Wrote: I'd be willing to bet Trump never heard of a black site before this week. It's entirely possible that the Republicans and their lawyers are drafting executive orders to their liking and then telling Trump "sign here". Doesn't make what he's doing any less reprehensible though.
That's right up his alley, so I'm sure he knows exactly what he's doing here. No encouragment needed.
I can only repeat what I always say. Take him at his word. He will do what he said to do. Reintroducing torture - even if it doesn't work, in his own words. Killing the families of terrorists - or suspected terrorists - may come next.
Take him at his word, and you won't be surprised by the depravity. I know I'm always arguing against comparing him to Hitler, but what you said there begs a comparison. There was a standard phrase in Hitler's Germany: If only the Führer knew. Well, he knew, and Trump knows. He's not a puppet, since he's not Shrub. Shrub was a simpleton, easily manipulated, this one is a strong willed primitive.
Oh, I have no doubt that Trump means exactly what he says. I encountered people here and there during the campaign who thought he must have been joking or performing when he said his outrageous things but I always told them that he's not joking, he's 100% serious. Which is why Republicans who want to roll the clock back on everything have been wetting themselves with joy since he was "elected".
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RE: Trum to reintroduce black sites
January 26, 2017 at 5:30 am
The Clintons better move to Canada.
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RE: Trum to reintroduce black sites
January 26, 2017 at 5:35 am
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Not a bad idea.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38753000
Quote:US President Donald Trump has said he believes waterboarding works, stating "we have to fight fire with fire".
Mr Trump said that while radical groups beheaded people in the Middle East "we're not playing on an even field".
But Mr Trump also said he would consult Defence Secretary James Mattis and CIA director Mike Pompeo and "if they don't want to do it that's fine".
Both have indicated opposition to reintroducing the interrogation method, widely considered a form of torture.
Former CIA director Leon Panetta told the BBC it would be a "serious mistake to take a backward step" on torture.
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RE: Trum to reintroduce black sites
January 26, 2017 at 9:14 am
(January 25, 2017 at 1:55 pm)abaris Wrote: Curious which European bootlickers will favor the Dump with opening new black sites. Poland and Romania are already on record from the Shrub days. Human rights, my ass. I hope noone has the gall to bring up the tale of the US fighting for a better world anytime soon.
At the same time, the same order shall ban the Red Cross from investigating American prisons anymore and reintroduce the possibiity of enhanced interrogation, aka torture.
Quote:WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is preparing a sweeping executive order that would clear the way for the C.I.A. to reopen overseas “black site” prisons, like those where it detained and tortured terrorism suspects before former President Barack Obama shut them down.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/po...isons.html
Ireland never stopped allowing rendition flights through Shannon, I'm guessing one of the warehouses there was always a black site.
Oh, and he's reintroducing torture because he "feels" that it works. Frankly anybody who advocates the introduction of torture should be broken on a wheel for a couple of hours before they're allowed vote on it. See how they feel when they find out what torture is.
Expect the CIA to kill hundreds, if not thousands of innocent people over the next few years through torture and the anti-US sentiments across the world to spiral.
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