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What makes your faith true?
RE: What makes your faith true?
(February 15, 2017 at 5:27 am)Godschild Wrote: That's not even close to what I said. I said they were influenced by Satan or someone through selfish motivation started those religions. Satan is not going to start a public religion where he is worshiped directly, he is the great deceiver of men, he works behind the scene.

Works behind the scene and that's not close? And still manages to have more peaceful religions then Jesus. Don't forget quote by Carl Sagan: "The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don’t like that statement, but few can argue with it."

(February 15, 2017 at 5:27 am)Godschild Wrote: There are satanic cults and you do not see them making public displays.
Oh but I do see them. Just last year Satanists have submitted application to install a Baphomet statue in the Arkansas Capitol. Also few months ago group of Christians disrupted a satanic prayer during a council meeting in Pensacola, Florida and so on.

(February 15, 2017 at 5:27 am)Godschild Wrote: Christianity is much different than the other religions of the world. Why do you think it's attacked by all the other religions.

And when Christians attack other religions that's different? How?

(February 15, 2017 at 5:27 am)Godschild Wrote: I'm not sure where you got that from it would help if you explained in detail, l do not know of any such denomination.

Really? For instance Jehovah's Witnesses are known worldwide for refusing to go to war and they see in the Bible that to properly serve Jesus is not to go to war:
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses...go-to-war/

(February 15, 2017 at 5:27 am)Godschild Wrote: I will not allow you to mock me over this and I'm not the only Christian who has responded to you in this manner in this thread

Well it is a logical question and I was wondering how you were coping personally with that. Or how do we know that Jesus wasn’t just a man who died like every other person?
Your answer is that you feel it, but that's a bad reason because for starters it leads you to believe Gandhi will burn in Hell along with Hitler and that sort of "feeling" approach to world is wrong. How comfortable would you be if you had a feeling-reliant surgeon who said, "No need for x-rays or blood tests, I know there is a tumor in your brain, so I'm going in. Thanks to feeling, I'm 100 percent certain that it's there." If faith and feelings are enough to declare that a god is real, then why not tumors too?


Oh and when it comes back that I should study the Bible more and probably start going to church and I will find Jesus. That Jesus will be revealed to me if I show faith in him, but it sounds a lot like trying to voluntarily induce a delusion. If I try my absolute best to believe in Zeus, would he become real too? If I attend ceremonies at a Hindu temple and pray to Hindu gods for a few years, might they become real to me too?

Sure if I took on some religion and chose to look only at the good parts and dismissed all the bad ones and left out all rationality to think that easily explainable phenomenons are signs from god I would start to believe that was a real and good god. But that is also a tactic that dictators use. They only allow good positive stuff to be written and said about them to create illusion they are really good and kind people, but when you look at the whole picture you see a monster.

Take simple reasoning like the prayer of a mother, spoken aloud or thought in silence, as she embraces her suffering and dying baby: "I beg you, God, save my baby. Please, God, don’t let her die." Prayer for the baby is the most innocent and worthy of rescue of anyone. It’s about as sincere and unselfish as any prayer could be. And Jesus said "And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive" and yet every hour thousand kids under age of 5 die in horrible torment.
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That's just god saving them from the sins they would have committed in the future. It's the ultimate act of mercy, don't you know.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: What makes your faith true?
(February 15, 2017 at 5:27 am)Godschild Wrote: I was wondering how long it would take you to get back to this, if this entire discussion has been your attempt to bring this up then as I told you in the earlier post I will not allow you to mock me over this and I'm not the only Christian who has responded to you in this manner in this thread. I understand why, it's why I chose Jesus and you should be grateful God carried out His plan for our salvation no matter what it took.

GC

Right now, I'm just grateful not to be you.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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RE: What makes your faith true?
(February 15, 2017 at 3:00 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote:
(February 15, 2017 at 5:27 am)Godschild Wrote: I was wondering how long it would take you to get back to this, if this entire discussion has been your attempt to bring this up then as I told you in the earlier post I will not allow you to mock me over this and I'm not the only Christian who has responded to you in this manner in this thread. I understand why, it's why I chose Jesus and you should be grateful God carried out His plan for our salvation no matter what it took.

GC

Right now, I'm just grateful not to be you.

You're not nearly as glad as I am.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Ok, people, put down the flamethrowers. We're not having a war while I'm standing here.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: What makes your faith true?
(February 15, 2017 at 3:43 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
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Ok, people, put down the flamethrowers. We're not having a war while I'm standing here.

How about a skirmish with lighters?

Angel

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: What makes your faith true?
Not even a mild tiff with matches.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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A pillow fight with a candle nearby?

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: What makes your faith true?
Make it a staring contest over a warm muffin and we've got a deal.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: What makes your faith true?
all this sexual innuendo is giving me a stiffy
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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