The OP is just hiding God outside of time and space...
He/she is reading from " God of the Gaps for dummies "
He/she is reading from " God of the Gaps for dummies "
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
Know God, Know fear.
A question to all atheists!
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The OP is just hiding God outside of time and space...
He/she is reading from " God of the Gaps for dummies "
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear. RE: A question to all atheists!
January 30, 2017 at 1:07 am
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2017 at 1:11 am by robvalue.)
She's obviously trying to shoe-horn "God" into gaps of knowledge, but hasn't got the honesty to state her own position. She's welcome to correct me. The obviously loaded question coupled with silence leaves us assuming such an agenda.
It's an argument from ignorance/incredulity, of course. She can't imagine things being any other way, so some magic thing did it. There is no need to mention atheists, or to define "natural" so as to set up the meaningless "supernatural", to discuss this so-called scenario. We were supposed to deduce from assuming a hypothesis is true, that it isn't true. That is absolutely absurd. Do I really need to explain why? Of course, we can use logic to demonstrate an absurdity. But no such logic has appeared, and even if it did, there is no evidence to support the over-reaching extra assumptions. Something can't come from nothing? Why, because you say so? Because you can't imagine it? Here's my old video about the above, for her benefit, should she wish to try and learn something. Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum (January 29, 2017 at 11:09 pm)Gestas Wrote:(January 29, 2017 at 10:38 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: No...his point was that what you're asking, in the manner you are asking it, is nonsensical. There is no such thing as, "before" time began. "Before" implies a timeline. As in...there was a "state of affairs when" there was no time, "and then" time began. That doesn't make sense. Where do you plot the point of timelessness on the timeline of before and after the beginning of time? It is you who has demonstrated the complete inability to address anything that's said in a meaningful way or make any attempt to reflect about your own argument and assumptions. You're merely repeating the same line over and over with more insults mixed in. That could be construed aa lack of sufficient intelligence, but I rather suspect that your intellectual inflexibility stems from the fact that you are trying to follow a fixed script to a "gotcha"-moment against atheists.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
Naughty atheists not taking the bait.
When you have to tell people what their beliefs are to make yourself comfortable about your own beliefs, you are projecting. Take a look in the mirror. Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum RE: A question to all atheists!
January 30, 2017 at 1:48 am
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2017 at 1:48 am by Alex K.)
OP has probably seen a Youtube vid "The surefire way to DESTROY&pwn atheists in one argument" and attributes its failure to our noncompliance, lol.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
(January 30, 2017 at 1:22 am)Alex K Wrote:(January 29, 2017 at 11:09 pm)Gestas Wrote: All he’s doing is avoiding the crux of the hypothetical by arguing over semantics, which is why I switched over to possible world semantics and his response to that was “haha”. Well of course he has to follow his apologist script Alex how else would he answer
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb (January 30, 2017 at 1:50 am)Orochi Wrote:(January 30, 2017 at 1:22 am)Alex K Wrote: It is you who has demonstrated the complete inability to address anything that's said in a meaningful way or make any attempt to reflect about your own argument and assumptions. You're merely repeating the same line over and over with more insults mixed in. That could be construed aa lack of sufficient intelligence, but I rather suspect that your intellectual inflexibility stems from the fact that you are trying to follow a fixed script to a "gotcha"-moment against atheists. The unpleasant combination she employs of a fixed script + psycho tactics to discredit or silence "critics", I find a bit worrisome almost. Has a sociopathic cultist flavor.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
RE: A question to all atheists!
January 30, 2017 at 1:53 am
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2017 at 1:54 am by robvalue.)
It's handy that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a pseudo-intellectual, isn't it? That's a great way to avoid having to consider any other point of view.
Science works. Science tells us reliable information about reality. Philosophy is an integral part is science. But neither work without the other. If you think philosophy is going to help you think reality into the shape you want it to be, you're mistaken. Other people on this forum have wasted years of their lives doing this. Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum (January 30, 2017 at 1:53 am)robvalue Wrote: It's handy that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a pseudo-intellectual, isn't it? That's a great way to avoid having to consider any other point of view. Indeed both need integration Science without philosophy is blind Philosophy without science is just mental masturbation
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb
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