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Another Reason Christians are Dangerous
January 30, 2017 at 1:56 pm
Maybe I should rephrase that. What Christians are being taught is dangerous. I’m not talking about the annoying stuff like our eternal destination or god helping them find their car keys. I’m talking about something that can’t be ignored.
I was talking to a guy today, a really nice guy. I’ve known him for years and he never before said anything religious to me. Until today and it was a whammy.
Today turned out pretty warm and sunny with lots of birds so I mentioned global warming. He said he didn’t believe in global warming. I asked him what he meant by that. He said god knows how the earth is going to end and nothing can happen to the earth no matter what we do to it. god controls the weather, not man.
It was the “no matter what we do to it” part that frightened me. We now have a man in the white house who holds the same opinion.
We are nearly at the point of no return now. We can’t keep this planet from turning into a global dystopia without sacrifices that few of us are willing to make. And the ones who claim that their god created this world are saying “fuck the planet.”
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: Another Reason Christians are Dangerous
January 30, 2017 at 2:13 pm
Regardless of whether he believes that man made climate change is a thing or not, as a Christian he should still believe he has a moral obligation to take care of the plants and creatures and planet that God created. If he doesn't, then that's his own failing.
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RE: Another Reason Christians are Dangerous
January 30, 2017 at 2:21 pm
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I thought we'd already crossed the threshold for a runaway climate shift?
The permafrost is melting and the methane stores are being released.
The opportunity to bring it back has passed and we are now looking more in terms of clinging on by any means.
This is a representation of our position at this point:
Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
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RE: Another Reason Christians are Dangerous
January 30, 2017 at 11:19 pm
It's certainly a tall order to come up with a truly irrational belief that is completely benign.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: Another Reason Christians are Dangerous
January 30, 2017 at 11:32 pm
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I have a theory that the Bible, which teaches Christians to worship a god that murders by drowning, that orders religious cleansing and war crimes, conditions Christians to accept authority figures that do terrible things.
This would explain why many Christians had no problem voting for Donald Trump, although he can't compare to the fictional Yahweh.
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RE: Another Reason Christians are Dangerous
January 31, 2017 at 1:59 am
(January 30, 2017 at 11:32 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: I have a theory that the Bible, which teaches Christians to worship a god that murders by drowning, that orders religious cleansing and war crimes, conditions Christians to accept authority figures that do terrible things.
This would explain why many Christians had no problem voting for Donald Trump, although he can't compare to the fictional Yahweh.
I think the appeal to authority and the desire to abdicate one's own responsibility and be taken care of by another (laziness) is basically the root of it. After that, the rest just follows. This goes for morality, thought in general, everything. It's like a "Don't ask, don't think" policy.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: Another Reason Christians are Dangerous
January 31, 2017 at 2:15 am
(This post was last modified: January 31, 2017 at 2:16 am by Faith No More.)
(January 30, 2017 at 1:56 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Maybe I should rephrase that. What Christians are being taught is dangerous. I’m not talking about the annoying stuff like our eternal destination or god helping them find their car keys. I’m talking about something that can’t be ignored.
I was talking to a guy today, a really nice guy. I’ve known him for years and he never before said anything religious to me. Until today and it was a whammy.
Today turned out pretty warm and sunny with lots of birds so I mentioned global warming. He said he didn’t believe in global warming. I asked him what he meant by that. He said god knows how the earth is going to end and nothing can happen to the earth no matter what we do to it. god controls the weather, not man.
It was the “no matter what we do to it” part that frightened me. We now have a man in the white house who holds the same opinion.
We are nearly at the point of no return now. We can’t keep this planet from turning into a global dystopia without sacrifices that few of us are willing to make. And the ones who claim that their god created this world are saying “fuck the planet.”
He most likely got that from intellectual shitstain and former governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee, another GOP perpetual nominee for "Most Punchable Face."
Oh, and don't be silly. Trump's not so gullible as to think that god controls the weather. He thinks it's a Chinese hoax to weaken American industry. (Except when high sea levels threaten his golf course and he could receive financial compensation, of course. Then it's totally real.)
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RE: Another Reason Christians are Dangerous
January 31, 2017 at 4:57 am
(January 30, 2017 at 11:19 pm)Astonished Wrote: It's certainly a tall order to come up with a truly irrational belief that is completely benign.
Not a tall order at all. There's a pen here on my desk. I hold the truly irrational belief that the pen is self-aware and spends all of its time thinking up new names for cloud formations.
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RE: Another Reason Christians are Dangerous
January 31, 2017 at 5:22 am
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With this kind of stupid logic in place, I don't know why any such Christian would ever care about anything at all. God knows what he is doing, right? Why be concerned if a maniac is caving in the skull of a child with a crowbar? It's part of god's plan, or it wouldn't be happening. Who are we to interfere?
Wait a minute. I think it's just things people don't want to care about that should be left up to God. That must be it.
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RE: Another Reason Christians are Dangerous
January 31, 2017 at 5:29 am
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(January 30, 2017 at 2:13 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: as a Christian he should still believe he has a moral obligation to take care of the plants and creatures and planet that God created. If he doesn't, then that's his own failing.
Actually many Christians see it as immoral not to pollute:
" The ethic of conservation is the explicit abnegation of man’s dominion over the Earth. The lower species are here for our use. God said so: Go forth, be fruitful, multiply, and rape the planet—it’s yours. That’s our job: drilling, mining and stripping…. Sweaters are the anti-Biblical view. Big gas-guzzling cars with phones and CD players and wet bars—that’s the Biblical view."
Ann Coulter from Oil good; democrats bad
So in lots of cases it's the failing of Christianity.
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