If "god" wants to talk to me... [new video]

[Drich]

Because it's not the same faith. We know the technology exists. We can find facts about it. We can research why it works. The technology exists and we have evidence of it. Not with your god.

This is the same Approach I took with God. Only a fool would deny what billions claim to have experienced concerning God. We can start with an assumption something exists out there beyond us, and leave it opened as just that. We can research it. first by examining what God says about himself and what other experience and then weed out truth from hope narrative as both the bible and conflicting stories can not be true. We can also take God up on any promises He has given us to test Him and see if he is not the God of the Bible. (but again His terms not our own)

Whether people do this or not has no effect on whether it exists or not.

the same can be said about gravity or radio waves or really any unseen force the majority of the masses knows very little about. Again God in this instance is no different. For in the instance of radio waves you have no idea of their presence or activity until someone one told you about them and two showed you how to access them. Your specific knowledge nor anyone else specific knowledge of a certain band with or specific frequency has anything to do with it's existence. So then i challenge you to explain how this is any different that someone with little to know knowledge of God?

I accept based on evidence, asshole. I could no more decide to believe in the reality of god than I could decide to believe in the reality of Harry Potter.

:Roflol: your thoughts concerning Muslims and technology has betrayed any hope for you to be seen as an 'evidence based 'thinker.' You my misinformed or simply confused atheist are a follower of key words. The word 'evidence' is one of them. Preface or pepper a ridiculous statement/theory with the word 'evidence' and you will ba ba baaack this source through the gates of Hell! You are who you think most christians to be.

Fuck off. Your the only one I see full of pride in this conversation. You have all the answers, whether they make sense or not. You see educated choices as no different that emotional guesses and wishes.

is their a reason for that or are you just openly willing to embrace bigotry and prejudice?

Who says god definitely doesn't exist? Not me. I'll be the first to accept your god when presented with enough objective evidence.

What is 'enough evidence?' What does evidence of God look like to you? how much would be enough?

But there is nothing.

who says? God provides evidence to all who A/S/K for it.

Take the bible away as evidence of god and you got nothing

what a simpleton.. Take away the written history of the united states and you got nothing... Take away an linch pin in a people's history and you've got nothing. that is how assimilation of cultures works you friggen morn. Take away a people's histroy and you get to decide who they become. But, here's the thing sport, we do have the bible despite man's best efforts in and out of governments and religion to obliterate it. Instead of talking in what if we didn't have the bible maybe learn to look into all the effort expended in histroy to take the bible from man, and how each and every attempt has failed. Then look at the patterns of failure and tell me if you see something that repeats/protects God's word.

You can just decide you don't believe. You don't need to have any reason except you want to.

And why not? if most of you were honest, the reason you all do not want to believe is to either poke or be poked in the bung, or look at pictures of this happening to someone else on line.. So then why can't i be afforded a similar trivial reason to want to believe God? Such as I found the promise God made to reveal Himself and I followed the path laid out and found God waiting for me right where the bible said He would be.

Apparently, you have your own definition for "miracle" as well as "faith". But there is no evidence of these miracles, is there?

Sure there are sport they are just rename "Medical anomalies" so people like you do not have to keep up at night having to reconcile all that they know and believe 'science' to determine, with what sometimes happens despite the direction 'science' has predetermined.

[Athene]

You can just decide you don't believe. You don't need to have any reason except you want to.

And why not? if most of you were honest, the reason you all do not want to believe is to either poke or be poked in the bung, or look at pictures of this happening to someone else on line.. 

Come (and Stay) for the Guiltless, Bung-hole Hijinks? I must have missed that memo.

RE:Come (and Stay) for the Guiltless, Bung-hole Hijinks:
Please, do not re-submit; It's no big deal. Really.

I've gone this long.

[The Industrial Atheist]

Um the bible directly contradicts itself. God is love but he orders religous cleansings and sanctions slavery. Jesus has the chance to change gods stance in NT but instead he just doesn't mention it. God is all-knowing but he regrets things (like creating man ) in the OT. D'oht I regret that even though I knew that would be the result and exactly why it would happen.

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[Nay_Sayer]

Because it's not the same faith.  We know the technology exists.  We can find facts about it.  We can research why it works.   The technology exists and we have evidence of it.  Not with your god.

This is the same Approach I took with God. Only a fool would deny what billions claim to have experienced concerning God. We can start with an assumption something exists out there beyond us, and leave it opened as just that. We can research it. first by examining what God says about himself and what other experience and then weed out truth from hope narrative as both the bible and conflicting stories can not be true. We can also take God up on any promises He has given us to test Him and see if he is not the God of the Bible. (but again His terms not our own)

Whether people do this or not has no effect on whether it exists or not.

the same can be said about gravity or radio waves or really any unseen force the majority of the masses knows very little about. Again God in this instance is no different. For in the instance of radio waves you have no idea of their presence or activity until someone one told you about them and two showed you how to access them. Your specific knowledge nor anyone else specific knowledge of a certain band with or specific frequency has anything to do with it's existence. So then i challenge you to explain how this is any different that someone with little to know knowledge of God?

I accept based on evidence, asshole.  I could no more decide to believe in the reality of god than I could decide to believe in the reality of Harry Potter.

:Roflol: your thoughts concerning Muslims and technology has betrayed any hope for you to be seen as an 'evidence based 'thinker.' You my misinformed or simply confused atheist are a follower of key words. The word 'evidence' is one of them. Preface or pepper a ridiculous statement/theory with the word 'evidence' and you will ba ba baaack this source through the gates of Hell! You are who you think most christians to be.

Fuck off.  Your the only one I see full of pride in this conversation.  You have all the answers, whether they make sense or not.  You see educated choices as no different that emotional guesses and wishes.

is their a reason for that or are you just openly willing to embrace bigotry and prejudice?

Who says god definitely doesn't exist?  Not me.  I'll be the first to accept your god when presented with enough objective evidence.

What is 'enough evidence?' What does evidence of God look like to you? how much would be enough?

But there is nothing.

who says? God provides evidence to all who A/S/K for it.

Take the bible away as evidence of god and you got nothing

what a simpleton.. Take away the written history of the united states and you got nothing... Take away an linch pin in a people's history and you've got nothing. that is how assimilation of cultures works you friggen morn. Take away a people's histroy and you get to decide who they become. But, here's the thing sport, we do have the bible despite man's best efforts in and out of governments and religion to obliterate it. Instead of talking in what if we didn't have the bible maybe learn to look into all the effort expended in histroy to take the bible from man, and how each and every attempt has failed. Then look at the patterns of failure and tell me if you see something that repeats/protects God's word.

You can just decide you don't believe. You don't need to have any reason except you want to.

And why not? if most of you were honest, the reason you all do not want to believe is to either poke or be poked in the bung, or look at pictures of this happening to someone else on line.. So then why can't i be afforded a similar trivial reason to want to believe God? Such as I found the promise God made to reveal Himself and I followed the path laid out and found God waiting for me right where the bible said He would be.

Apparently, you have your own definition for "miracle" as well as "faith".  But there is no evidence of these miracles, is there?

Sure there are sport they are just rename "Medical anomalies" so people like you do not have to keep up at night having to reconcile all that they know and believe 'science' to determine, with what sometimes happens despite the direction 'science' has predetermined.

Just picked one thing from this wall of mess; If the united states had no history I'd know the untied states still exist, Wanna know how? Because there are about a dozen other ways to verify The United States exists.

Speaking of places, Tyre also still exists, Odd that.

[Harry Nevis]

This is the same Approach I took with God. Only a fool would deny what billions claim to have experienced concerning God. We can start with an assumption something exists out there beyond us, and leave it opened as just that. We can research it. first by examining what God says about himself and what other experience and then weed out truth from hope narrative as both the bible and conflicting stories can not be true. We can also take God up on any promises He has given us to test Him and see if he is not the God of the Bible. (but again His terms not our own)

Well, so god is a popularity contest?  If billions believe in other deities, how can you deny them?  And examining what god sais to prove god is illogical. And how can you test god?

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the same can be said about gravity or radio waves or really any unseen force the majority of the masses knows very little about. Again God in this instance is no different. For in the instance of radio waves you have no idea of their presence or activity until someone one told you about them and two showed you how to access them. Your specific knowledge nor anyone else specific knowledge of a certain band with or specific frequency has anything to do with it's existence. So then i challenge you to explain how this is any different that someone with little to know knowledge of God?

We can prove radio waves exist.  We have evidence of them. You would be an idiot to believe in radio waves without looking up the evidence. It's amazing that you can't grasp this simple concept.

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:Roflol: your thoughts concerning Muslims and technology has betrayed any hope for you to be seen as an 'evidence based 'thinker.' You my misinformed or simply confused atheist are a follower of key words. The word 'evidence' is one of them. Preface or pepper a ridiculous statement/theory with the word 'evidence' and you will ba ba baaack this source through the gates of Hell! You are who you think most christians to be.

Where did I reference Muslims or technology?  And everyone know what evidence is, and what evidence i'm talking about.

is their a reason for that or are you just openly willing to embrace bigotry and prejudice?

Is there a reason you think that?

What is 'enough evidence?' What does evidence of God look like to you? how much would be enough?
who says? God provides evidence to all who A/S/K for it.

Again, bullshit answers.  How about any objective evidence for the miracles in the bible.  Like the walking corpses, etc.  But I'm sure you have just the evidence.

what a simpleton.. Take away the written history of the united states and you got nothing... Take away an linch pin in a people's history and you've got nothing. that is how assimilation of cultures works you friggen morn. Take away a people's histroy and you get to decide who they become. But, here's the thing sport, we do have the bible despite man's best efforts in and out of governments and religion to obliterate it. Instead of talking in what if we didn't have the bible maybe learn to look into all the effort expended in histroy to take the bible from man, and how each and every attempt has failed. Then look at the patterns of failure and tell me if you see something that repeats/protects God's word.

Fuck off.  Obliterate the bible?  You're an idiot. European and America was built on killing whoever didn't toe the line on what was believed in
the bible.  More fake persecution stories. And all of that says NOTHING about the bible being anything but a bunch of stories.
 
And why not? if most of you were honest, the reason you all do not want to believe is to either poke or be poked in the bung, or look at pictures of this happening to someone else on line.. So then why can't i be afforded a similar trivial reason to want to believe God? Such as I found the promise God made to reveal Himself and I followed the path laid out and found God waiting for me right where the bible said He would be.
Sure there are sport they are just rename "Medical anomalies" so people like you do not have to keep up at night having to reconcile all that they know and believe 'science' to determine, with what sometimes happens despite the direction 'science' has predetermined.

If you were honest, you wouldn't be a christian.

Just picked one thing from this wall of mess; If the united states had no history I'd know the untied states still exist, Wanna know how? Because there are about a dozen other ways to verify The United States exists.

Speaking of places, Tyre also still exists, Odd that.

Any evidence of the US existing is history.  You're a loon.  And who gives a fuck about Tyre?

[Drich]

Um the bible directly contradicts itself. God is love but he orders religous cleansings and sanctions slavery. Jesus has the chance to change gods stance in NT but instead he just doesn't mention it. God is all-knowing but he regrets things (like creating man ) in the OT. D'oht I regret that even though I knew that would be the result and exactly why it would happen.

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No Idea what any of this means..

How what does love have to do with what you've mentioned? or are you under the assumption that God is expected to love everyone equally?

What if He never made the claim to love everyone equally no matter what? What if God's love is conditional and has been from the beginning? Then why would Jesus need to change anything?

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This is the same Approach I took with God. Only a fool would deny what billions claim to have experienced concerning God. We can start with an assumption something exists out there beyond us, and leave it opened as just that. We can research it. first by examining what God says about himself and what other experience and then weed out truth from hope narrative as both the bible and conflicting stories can not be true. We can also take God up on any promises He has given us to test Him and see if he is not the God of the Bible. (but again His terms not our own)
the same can be said about gravity or radio waves or really any unseen force the majority of the masses knows very little about. Again God in this instance is no different. For in the instance of radio waves you have no idea of their presence or activity until someone one told you about them and two showed you how to access them. Your specific knowledge nor anyone else specific knowledge of a certain band with or specific frequency has anything to do with it's existence. So then i challenge you to explain how this is any different that someone with little to know knowledge of God?
:Roflol: your thoughts concerning Muslims and technology has betrayed any hope for you to be seen as an 'evidence based 'thinker.' You my misinformed or simply confused atheist are a follower of key words. The word 'evidence' is one of them. Preface or pepper a ridiculous statement/theory with the word 'evidence' and you will ba ba baaack this source through the gates of Hell! You are who you think most christians to be.

is their a reason for that or are you just openly willing to embrace bigotry and prejudice?
What is 'enough evidence?' What does evidence of God look like to you? how much would be enough?
who says? God provides evidence to all who A/S/K for it.
what a simpleton.. Take away the written history of the united states and you got nothing... Take away an linch pin in a people's history and you've got nothing. that is how assimilation of cultures works you friggen morn. Take away a people's histroy and you get to decide who they become. But, here's the thing sport, we do have the bible despite man's best efforts in and out of governments and religion to obliterate it. Instead of talking in what if we didn't have the bible maybe learn to look into all the effort expended in histroy to take the bible from man, and how each and every attempt has failed. Then look at the patterns of failure and tell me if you see something that repeats/protects God's word.

And why not? if most of you were honest, the reason you all do not want to believe is to either poke or be poked in the bung, or look at pictures of this happening to someone else on line.. So then why can't i be afforded a similar trivial reason to want to believe God? Such as I found the promise God made to reveal Himself and I followed the path laid out and found God waiting for me right where the bible said He would be.
Sure there are sport they are just rename "Medical anomalies" so people like you do not have to keep up at night having to reconcile all that they know and believe 'science' to determine, with what sometimes happens despite the direction 'science' has predetermined.

Just picked one thing from this wall of mess; If the united states had no history I'd know the untied states still exist, Wanna know how? Because there are about a dozen other ways to verify The United States exists.

Speaking of places, Tyre also still exists, Odd that.

Moron, without the History of this country, all you have is a land mass or a social gathering that can call themselves whatever they like. To be a nation there must be a common point of unification from a single point in the past. without history then whatever you deem the US can be changed at will.

That is why there is such a strong effort to remove religion from the founding father's beliefs. Thomas Jefferson albeit not a denominational believer was one of the strongest Christians among them. Yet if not for his library of letters and various other correspondence at Monticello.org 95% of what you find on line points to atheistic beliefs.

[Drich]

Well, so god is a popularity contest?

begs the question.
The popularity of the religion simply demands to be investigated before a sweeping dismissal, at least to the intellectually honest.

  If billions believe in other deities, how can you deny them?

 Not without properly investigating them, no. There is 'something to all religion. Some of it made made and supported others not.

And examining what god says to prove god is illogical.

how does one proof a map, or turn by turn instructions? You are confusing or simply do not know when the application of 'science' is or is not needed. If I and everyone around me got free Gas for a year and you ask any one of us where or what station is giving away free gas, as you so foolish as to take those instructions through the same scientific process as you would Darwin theory? Or do you walk 1/2 west make a right and at the end of the street you tell the cashier the special promo code?

There is more faith expended in that little thought senerio about getting free gas for a year than what is needed to proof God. In that you do not have to go anywhere or say anything to anyone. just simply do what He has asked in your Heart.

And how can you test god?

As He has instructed in Luke 11.

We can prove radio waves exist. 

No 'we' can't. You can follow instructions of those who can, but you outside of the all the work that has been done and you take for granted, you/we have no personal way to detect radio waves outside very strict/prescribed procedures set up by those who know radio.

It is this same following of procedures of those who know God, that is like those who know radio waves. If you do not follow these strict procedures you will not find the proof you are looking for. If and when you do it is very similar to turning on a radio.

We have evidence of them.

You have testimonials of them. but in truth if you were put in a dark room and were simply made to listen to a radio you would not know if you were listening to a close circuit live event, a recorded event, or what was being broadcast and received over a radio. Your 'proof' is little more than faith sport, and the sad thing.. your not smart enough to know that. yet you rail against the religious for doing the same as you do with your 'science.'

You would be an idiot to believe in radio waves without looking up the evidence. It's amazing that you can't grasp this simple concept.

So you're saying every man woman and child who has ever listen to a radio has a complete understanding of all the fundamentals of radio, otherwise they would be foolish to not be able to identify the difference between a radio, live or taped broadcast.

That's a bit of a stretch sport even for an obtuse atheist. Like flying I would hazard a guess that most do not know how radio works outside of plug it in and turn it on.

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If you were honest, you wouldn't be a christian.

If I were chasing after your idea of God, this statement could possibly be correct. However, my life has been spent seeking the God of the bible, which differs from your God quite abit, and I've honestly found what it is I've been looking for.

Just picked one thing from this wall of mess; If the united states had no history I'd know the untied states still exist, Wanna know how? Because there are about a dozen other ways to verify The United States exists.

OMg.. without history fabled city Atlantis, and Atlantis city in palm beach county could very well be the same place. Just because you call a city be a given name does not mean it is the city being referenced in a given text or senerio. Tyre is a good example of that.

Speaking of places, Tyre also still exists, Odd that.

Uh.. No.
There is a city named after the ancient city of tyre, actually the modern city which is named after two ancient cities of tyre sits about 3 miles away from the old city's foundations (who's remains was used to build a cause way)

So no, the ancient city does not exist, neither does the city from the time of Christ, but a modern city built well away from the two destroyed cities who shared the same name does.

Or are your saying Atlantis, Fl is the Atlantis of fable?

[The Industrial Atheist]

Um the bible directly contradicts itself. God is love but he orders religous cleansings and sanctions slavery. Jesus has the chance to change gods stance in NT but instead he just doesn't mention it. God is all-knowing but he regrets things (like creating man ) in the OT. D'oht I regret that even though I knew that would be the result and exactly why it would happen.

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No Idea what any of this means..

How what does love have to do with what you've mentioned? or are you under the assumption that God is expected to love everyone equally?

What if He never made the claim to love everyone equally no matter what? What if God's love is conditional and has been from the beginning? Then why would Jesus need to change anything?

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god also sanctioned slavery of Jews, they just had to be let go after 7 years. So it applied to the people he was supposed to love. Hell if you have any love for a person, you don't want them to be a slave.

I don't want my worst enemy to be a slave. By telling them slavery is ok that's actually an act of extreme hate.

[Harry Nevis]

Um the bible directly contradicts itself. God is love but he orders religous cleansings and sanctions slavery. Jesus has the chance to change gods stance in NT but instead he just doesn't mention it. God is all-knowing but he regrets things (like creating man ) in the OT. D'oht I regret that even though I knew that would be the result and exactly why it would happen.

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No Idea what any of this means..

How what does love have to do with what you've mentioned? or are you under the assumption that God is expected to love everyone equally?

What if He never made the claim to love everyone equally no matter what? What if God's love is conditional and has been from the beginning? Then why would Jesus need to change anything?

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Just picked one thing from this wall of mess; If the united states had no history I'd know the untied states still exist, Wanna know how? Because there are about a dozen other ways to verify The United States exists.

Speaking of places, Tyre also still exists, Odd that.

Moron, without the History of this country, all you have is a land mass or a social gathering that can call themselves whatever they like. To be a nation there must be a common point of unification from a single point in the past. without history then whatever you deem the US can be changed at will.

That is why there is such a strong effort to remove religion from the founding father's beliefs. Thomas Jefferson albeit not a denominational believer was one of the strongest Christians among them. Yet if not for his library of letters and various other correspondence at Monticello.org 95% of what you find on line points to atheistic beliefs.

You're so full of shit.

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Well, so god is a popularity contest?

begs the question.
The popularity of the religion simply demands to be investigated before a sweeping dismissal, at least to the intellectually honest.

  If billions believe in other deities, how can you deny them?

 Not without properly investigating them, no. There is 'something to all religion. Some of it made made and supported others not.

And examining what god says to prove god is illogical.

how does one proof a map, or turn by turn instructions? You are confusing or simply do not know when the application of 'science' is or is not needed. If I and everyone around me got free Gas for a year and you ask any one of us where or what station is giving away free gas, as you so foolish as to take those instructions through the same scientific process as you would Darwin theory? Or do you walk 1/2 west make a right and at the end of the street you tell the cashier the special promo code?

There is more faith expended in that little thought senerio about getting free gas for a year than what is needed to proof God. In that you do not have to go anywhere or say anything to anyone. just simply do what He has asked in your Heart.

And how can you test god?

As He has instructed in Luke 11.

We can prove radio waves exist. 

No 'we' can't. You can follow instructions of those who can, but you outside of the all the work that has been done and you take for granted, you/we have no personal way to detect radio waves outside very strict/prescribed procedures set up by those who know radio.

It is this same following of procedures of those who know God, that is like those who know radio waves. If you do not follow these strict procedures you will not find the proof you are looking for. If and when you do it is very similar to turning on a radio.

We have evidence of them.

You have testimonials of them. but in truth if you were put in a dark room and were simply made to listen to a radio you would not know if you were listening to a close circuit live event, a recorded event, or what was being broadcast and received over a radio. Your 'proof' is little more than faith sport, and the sad thing.. your not smart enough to know that. yet you rail against the religious for doing the same as you do with your 'science.'

You would be an idiot to believe in radio waves without looking up the evidence. It's amazing that you can't grasp this simple concept.

So you're saying every man woman and child who has ever listen to a radio has a complete understanding of all the fundamentals of radio, otherwise they would be foolish to not be able to identify the difference between a radio, live or taped broadcast.

That's a bit of a stretch sport even for an obtuse atheist. Like flying I would hazard a guess that most do not know how radio works outside of plug it in and turn it on.

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If you were honest, you wouldn't be a christian.

If I were chasing after your idea of God, this statement could possibly be correct. However, my life has been spent seeking the God of the bible, which differs from your God quite abit, and I've honestly found what it is I've been looking for.

Just picked one thing from this wall of mess; If the united states had no history I'd know the untied states still exist, Wanna know how? Because there are about a dozen other ways to verify The United States exists.

OMg.. without history fabled city Atlantis, and Atlantis city in palm beach county could very well be the same place. Just because you call a city be a given name does not mean it is the city being referenced in a given text or senerio. Tyre is a good example of that.

Speaking of places, Tyre also still exists, Odd that.

Uh.. No.
There is a city named after the ancient city of tyre, actually the modern city which is named after two ancient cities of tyre sits about 3 miles away from the old city's foundations (who's remains was used to build a cause way)

So no, the ancient city does not exist, neither does the city from the time of Christ, but a modern city built well away from the two destroyed cities who shared the same name does.

Or are your saying Atlantis, Fl is the Atlantis of fable?

You can't even follow simple lines of thought without babbling.  You got no arguments so you put words in others' mouths.  I'm done with you.

[The Valkyrie]

God spoke to me last night.

He said, "I don't believe in you!"

I replied, "Hey, that's my line. Get back into my imagination!"

He said sorry and left.