Why Lust is bad, not gonna use "sin" reason but logical reason

[Jesster]

This thread is starting to turn me on.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

To be fair there are terrible answers for this, so in a generation of pornography i can understand why religious people or some people who aren't strong enough would just go for it. But i actually found the answer not long ago, and its incredible how easy it is. Basically it is a sin yes, but... logically i will use the bible and real life to explain why it is bad and its a argument. You may not agree with the conclusion but here it is.


Like i know in the bible that women usually exploit for values from men. It basically is saying male who is stupid to fall for it is likely to be poor, i mean lets take the story of Samson and Delilah for example, what do you think happens when he gets betrayed? Nothing, people dont care about him only god does, so what it says. Focus on something important or of value, if you focus on sensual stuff or that stuff you will likely make mistakes and basically it'll betray you

In either case the point is it draws away from doing something important, thats more or less the point.

I mean if Shadow in the game Shadow the Hedgehog was focusing on masturbating rather than finding a purpose, it would just be weird and furries would somehow love it for some reason

But men arent guiltless from this either. Because i think in Luke men who went into the whore house was seen as bad by one of the sons in the story of prodial son, i think he was talked down against. In either case the point is, men shouldnt be stupid, moral lesson for men.
You can find all sorts of biblical stuff, Eve gets apple from the snake, she eats it, gives it to Adam, Adam gets tricked. And there you go. Now you may explain cant men be exploitive too. Yes but woman has got nothing to lose, they are beautiful already, if a guy did something nobody would care what happend to him he is most likely useless because men arent useful other than giving to women, women are already beatiful so they can just use that to get men. So i wouldnt say this is a guy thing only, its just the biological and situation differences between genders.

so its better to just ignore, or if people try to trick you, just be you and do your best in life of your value. And there you go
beauty and stuff, doesnt matter. Do your best.

Or i think its easier to understand if you see this by standup comedian bill burr, thats why lust is bad, you basically lose your self value, and letting beauty trick you. Like sensual, real people. Same deal.

The Samson and Delilah story illustrates what happens to an individual who breaks the First Commandment as stated in Exodus chapter 34:12-16.  It also illustrates the passage about God having mercy on those who he wants to show mercy to (Romans 9:15, Isaiah 54:7).  Samson broke the First Commandment but God forgave him and restored his strength to defeat his enemies.  

Paul made an allusion to the Samson story in 1 Corinthians 5:5 when he says that such a person as Samson (he didn't directly refer to Samson) should be turned over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day when the Lord comes again.

[robvalue]

I find that religious belief just makes everything really fucked up, you know?

Of course we lust, that's how we evolved. It's just how things are.

But suddenly, instead, we were designed to lust and then expected to suppress it. This is some sick mad scientist shit.

I've heard it said before that religion uses sexual subjects to control people because it's one of the most primal urges. If you can make people ashamed of themselves, and feel they need to be "fixed", you can sell them the cure.

Sexual degenerates is just as bad as overprotective people. I am more in favour of learning from mistakes. Prodigal son is one of them.

I have no idea what this means. Judging by your posts, you seem to have proved my point. Religion has shamed you into thinking sex is wrong.

In either way a study shows people who have sex too much are more depressed than people who have less.

Can we see this study please?

Anyhow, doing anything "too much" is problematic. By definition! That's not an argument against it. We don't either have zero lust or infinite lust; this is binary thinking. You seem to suggest people in general have no self control, and can't have some sex without doing it all the time. That's just not reality.

There is a reason for why the bible says "Abusers of man kind" this is more a case of psychological abuse, consent or not it has the same effect when not feeling loved but used, even if you are married or not. If anything you guys have been fooled by marxist leader Herbert Marcuse being the founder of sexual revolution or liberation.

I have no idea what you're talking about again. I've never heard of that guy. You seem to have personal issues with sex. Why are you telling people how they feel after having sex? Neither I, nor anyone I've had sex with, has ever felt this way as far as I know.

You see sex as psychological abuse? That's just plain scary. I would like to see your sources to support this claim. I hope it's more than quotes from the bible. And consider this: you believe in a God who decided that the way his creations would reproduce would be through psychological abuse? What does that say about God?

More people are getting obese and lazy compared to people in the 50s.

Completely irrelevant.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

More people are getting obese and lazy compared to people in the 50s.

Then they should have sex more often, burn off those extra calories.

Fwiw, the way I generally feel after sex is huleepy - a combination of hungry and sleepy.

Boru

[robvalue]

If someone feels used after sex, that is an indication of a problem either with the sex itself or with one of the parties involved. It's not a problem with sex in general.

If that's how you've always felt after sex Rispri, then I am very sad to hear that. I imagine this would be either due to religion making you feel that way through its dogma, or having been with abusive people.

I feel a great sense of calm and happiness after sex. And usually hungry also! Denying yourself regular sexual relief is unhealthy, I know that much.

[Thumpalumpacus]

You lost me at "lust is bad".

[dyresand]

To be fair there are terrible answers for this, so in a generation of pornography i can understand why religious people or some people who aren't strong enough would just go for it. But i actually found the answer not long ago, and its incredible how easy it is. Basically it is a sin yes, but... logically i will use the bible and real life to explain why it is bad and its a argument. You may not agree with the conclusion but here it is.


Like i know in the bible that women usually exploit for values from men. It basically is saying male who is stupid to fall for it is likely to be poor, i mean lets take the story of Samson and Delilah for example, what do you think happens when he gets betrayed? Nothing, people dont care about him only god does, so what it says. Focus on something important or of value, if you focus on sensual stuff or that stuff you will likely make mistakes and basically it'll betray you

In either case the point is it draws away from doing something important, thats more or less the point.

I mean if Shadow in the game Shadow the Hedgehog was focusing on masturbating rather than finding a purpose, it would just be weird and furries would somehow love it for some reason

But men arent guiltless from this either. Because i think in Luke men who went into the whore house was seen as bad by one of the sons in the story of prodial son, i think he was talked down against. In either case the point is, men shouldnt be stupid, moral lesson for men.
You can find all sorts of biblical stuff, Eve gets apple from the snake, she eats it, gives it to Adam, Adam gets tricked. And there you go. Now you may explain cant men be exploitive too. Yes but woman has got nothing to lose, they are beautiful already, if a guy did something nobody would care what happend to him he is most likely useless because men arent useful other than giving to women, women are already beatiful so they can just use that to get men. So i wouldnt say this is a guy thing only, its just the biological and situation differences between genders.

so its better to just ignore, or if people try to trick you, just be you and do your best in life of your value. And there you go
beauty and stuff, doesnt matter. Do your best.

Or i think its easier to understand if you see this by standup comedian bill burr, thats why lust is bad, you basically lose your self value, and letting beauty trick you. Like sensual, real people. Same deal.

1. Never use the bible as the basis of your argument 
2. So the bible says lust is a sin... well without Lust or a sex drive we wouldn't  be here as a species.

[FatAndFaithless]

Being told I'm a lustful degenerate is my kink, baby.

[The Industrial Atheist]

Isn't the desire to reproduce why we -um- reproduce. So sure why not--whoops it turns out that doesn't have an off switch. I suppose an omnipotent God could have put an off switch there. But either he didn't want to make his rules you know possible to obey or god doesn't exist.

Before you read into it what you want, I'm not saying everyone has to copulate with everybody but by the biblical definition, everybody lusts.

[downbeatplumb]

Lust is thought crime.
People who hold in their urges are prone to violence, the example is excessive violence used by nuns in Ireland against the megdelena sisters.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-nuns.html

But its worse than that, by making any lustful thought a crime it lessens the impression of actual sexual crimes, so when catholic priests were paedophiles they were treated the same as people who had healthy liaisons with adults.