How long will Christians wait for Jesus?

[downbeatplumb]

One really wonders how long this can go on. Will there come a day when Christianity revises this claim, or will it simply let it go? Will they be eagerly awaiting him in the year 3000? If so, what about five thousand years from now? Ten thousand years?

I'm waiting as long as it takes.

According to Neo it happened a few centuries ago but no one noticed.

[Minimalist]

Leave it to Lek to serve as the Bad Example.

[Neo-Scholastic]

June 12, 1757. Already happened.

I was under the impression that you were drifting toward Catholicism. Firmly back in the Swedenborgian camp, huh?

Old habits die hard. I've always seen deep connections between Scholastic thought and the visions of Swedenborg. I find it difficult to pretend they don't exist.

[Lek]

One really wonders how long this can go on. Will there come a day when Christianity revises this claim, or will it simply let it go? Will they be eagerly awaiting him in the year 3000? If so, what about five thousand years from now? Ten thousand years?

How long do you think it should take? Humans have been around for what, a million years? Why is a few thousand years such a long time to wait?

[Nihilist Virus]

One really wonders how long this can go on. Will there come a day when Christianity revises this claim, or will it simply let it go? Will they be eagerly awaiting him in the year 3000? If so, what about five thousand years from now? Ten thousand years?

How long do you think it should take?  Humans have been around for what, a million years?  Why is a few thousand years such a long time to wait?

Matthew 24:30-34 says,

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.


So I'd say Jesus is about 2000 years late.

[The Grand Nudger]

How long do you think it should take?  Humans have been around for what, a million years?

uh...lol, no....?

Why is a few thousand years such a long time to wait?

IDK, ask god, he seems rather impatient when it comes to us getting it "right".

You, Lek, won't be waiting for as long as it takes, you don't have as long as it will take, at any rate. You will never see this happen, though each generation before you betrayed an overt or subconscious hope and expectation that theirs was the last generation, that they were individually "waiting". That...when or before the party was over for them..it would be over for everyone.

The base inhumanity required to find oneself hoping for the end of days is unfathomable, to me. Here's to hoping that your god grows up before he sends his illegitimate son down to inflict abject misery upon the world, though, judging by the amount of time we've all been waiting for that...since creation.... it's an even longer shot than the return of the king.

[Drich]

One really wonders how long this can go on. Will there come a day when Christianity revises this claim, or will it simply let it go? Will they be eagerly awaiting him in the year 3000? If so, what about five thousand years from now? Ten thousand years?

How about with in our lifetimes?

How do you perceive time? what happens when you ablity to cognitively process the division of time ends, then how will you perceive time?

Paul answered this question by saying when we are absent from the body we will be present with God.

This means to us (those who die waiting for Christ.) could close our eye in a blink and to us our eye will open it just as fast as that blink, and be standing before the Lord in our judgement.

Imagaine in one blink closing our eyes, dying and whether it be 1 day or a trillion years later, that time would seem instantaneous, because the internal mechnisim that we use to experience time will have died with our bodies. So it would seem the moment we die, will be the same moment we wake up to facing Jesus. "Absent from the body=present with God"

Or at least from our perspective.

[Lek]

How long do you think it should take?  Humans have been around for what, a million years?  Why is a few thousand years such a long time to wait?

Matthew 24:30-34 says,

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.


So I'd say Jesus is about 2000 years late.

So you're saying that the writer of Matthew, who was writing this gospel after the passing of the apostles generation, is saying that the world should have already ended? I really think that he would have to be smarter than that and make up something different. In Matthew 24 Jesus describes events that the people of that time will witness and his coming will occur before the end of that generation.

[The Grand Nudger]

So you're saying that the writer of Matthew, who was writing this gospel after the passing of the apostles generation, is saying that the world should have already ended?

The writer of matthew was relating a story.  

I really think that he would have to be smarter than that and make up something different.

That's probably where the mistake lies, lol.  Whomever wrote revelation thought the world either already had or currently -was- ending.  These were (supposedly) contemporary narratives.  Modern christians interpret both as happening some day™ in the future, preferably in their own lifetimes.

In Matthew 24 Jesus describes events that the people of that time will witness and his coming will occur before the end of that generation.

-and even though that never panned out, here people are, centuries later, hanging on the words as though they were credible. / shrugs

[Cyberman]

How about with in our lifetimes?

How do you perceive time? what happens when you ablity to cognitively process the division of time ends, then how will you perceive time?

Paul answered this question by saying when we are absent from the body we will be present with God.

This means to us (those who die waiting for Christ.) could close our eye in a blink and to us our eye will open it just as fast as that blink, and be standing before the Lord in our judgement.

Imagaine in one blink closing our eyes, dying and whether it be 1 day or a trillion years later, that time would seem instantaneous, because the internal mechnisim that we use to experience time will have died with our bodies. So it would seem the moment we die, will be the same moment we wake up to facing Jesus. "Absent from the body=present with God"

Or at least from our perspective.

Yeah Drich - blow that smokescreen!